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hippy
Last year I went to Mallorca with a few pals. I go most years and we ride pretty easy between hills and then usually little races develop between us on the climbs.
They invited their boss with them, who hadn't really done much training beyond commuting around 15km each way everyday with an occasional extended commute. He had about 15 years on most of us and put in pretty crazy efforts on every single hill on the island.
I've been wary of people who 'just' commute ever since.