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• #2052
Wow. That can't be real. But it is?!
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• #2053
Yes. It is real. Complete it and they ask you to donate to his campaign funds.
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• #2054
For those that don't want to do the survey.
http://www.avclub.com/article/vote-trumps-delusions-taking-his-new-media-account-250486
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• #2055
Trump's choice for national security adviser has turned down the job offer.
Retired Vice-Admiral Robert HarwardFormer Navy Seal spots sinking ship.
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• #2056
People close to him claim he described the job as a "shit sandwich"
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• #2057
Peter Oborne was just on Today defending Trump against the media.
The presenters were cracking up trying to talk to him, I don't think his attempt to be deliberately contrary was working.
It's clear that plenty of intelligent, well-educated and level headed people must have voted for Trump. What are they saying now? I feel like I'm in a bit of a UK bubble about Trump but I'd like to read some intelligent defence of his presidency so far, if such a thing exists.
Anyone?
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• #2058
This is probably the most convincing argument I've read
https://extranewsfeed.com/why-liberals-are-wrong-about-trump-c865b12c72a7#.7uo4j93a6
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• #2059
Insightful piece in the New European by Bonny Greer about how the US press, even the right wing press that were pro Trump, seem to changing in how they're reporting about Trumps presidency and despite a view that his election represents 'The will of the people', they are calling him out...
This in contrast to the UK press reporting on Brexit which as its The will of the people, any brexit dissenters are considered traitors and remainers, public enemies.
She asks what the British press is for.
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• #2060
Yeah, that was that clip of the Fox fella last night getting stroppy about the 'lies'.
I'm still puzzled by the lack of strength and coordination of the "Brexit is a bad idea so let's see if we can come up with a better idea" movement. The Americans are putting us to shame. I suspect the situation may not be helped by the fact that Brexit is all a bit abstract, not much has really happened, and the impact will only become apparent over the longer term. (And our overly-dominant rabid right-wing press shouting down any dissent of course.)
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• #2061
I saw 'former SNL' and thought, oh good, a bit of diversity of political opinion in the east coast media. But no.
There must be someone articulating a rational defence of what he's doing somewhere, surely?
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• #2062
Aye, Brexit is essentially just a change in terms and conditions though. I'm still betting that it will be symbolic and ineffectual, other than appeasing Little Britain. Fuck it, keep them happy and quiet.
Trump is very much real and proactive and current.
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• #2063
I'd have said precisely the opposite - Trump is just a new figurehead, but the change is limited to what one person can force through. Brexit represents a fundamental change to our rights, and to how our economy is configured...
You could argue though, that the current stage is more like the "president elect" period - Brexit hasn't yet happened, so no one feels justified in fully attacking it. In the same way that the criticism of Trump has launched in earnest since he came into power.
Alternatively, lack of press might be because our press is owned (in the most part) by Eurosceptic lunatics who support what is happening, whereas Trump has launched a vendetta against the press
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• #2064
This was my favourite question...
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• #2065
Lets get back to Hilary...
She had emails!
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• #2066
I'm actually really starting to enjoy this.
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• #2067
I was thinking about that.
I still reckon Brexit is slow-burn, the changes will be hard to spot, and they will happen over the long term. And it will be easy to blame anything other than Brexit for the bad stuff (the economy, the nasty EU people and their terms of exit, anything and everything really).
Whereas Trump's action are having a more visible impact:
- Some Muslims will have been denied entry/re-entry (perhaps now in effect permanently)
- The two 'controversial' pipelines now look like they are going to be built
- Individual states are now re-assessing their public health care commitments
- The climate change agenda is now being incrementally subject to 'revisionism'
- Global leaders are progressively reacting to American protectionism
- All sorts of weird things are happening with Russia
All of those will arguably affect people more immediately than Brexit.
- Some Muslims will have been denied entry/re-entry (perhaps now in effect permanently)
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• #2068
Just filled it in and used Trump Tower zip code at the end, just to get the paranoia flowing a bit more.
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• #2069
I used 90210 as my zip code.
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• #2070
And Trumps scores highly on the racist indicator score ... Whereas while some Brexiteers may do too , the idea doesn't
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• #2071
me too.
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• #2072
I'm actually really starting to enjoy this.
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• #2073
The questionnaire meanders between the terms "our Party" and "our movement".
If the former means the Republican party, then the latter presumably refers to whatever Bannon has up his sleeve?
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• #2075
the survey
FILED UNDER: AUX, Donald Trump, Jesus Christ, Jesus Fucking Christ
New filing system to me but seems appropriate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000389
US President Donald Trump's choice for national security adviser has turned down the job offer.
Retired Vice-Admiral Robert Harward was widely tipped for the post after Mr Trump fired Michael Flynn on Monday.
harwkward