Does anyone own a Canyon?

The thing I like the most is the box its shipped in.

available in the US soon... have they even sorted their european distribution issues

this listing seems to suggest for a Canyon Ultimate SLX from 2016 Onwards, then you will need AC3344 and AC3544 Acros Bearings

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acros-AI70-Headset-Bearings-Upper-Lower-as-found-in-many-Canyon-Bikes-/201774937384?hash=item2efab93528:g:cTYAAOSwsN9XAp0~

The old Ultimate CF SLX frames took Ai-70's. The new frames don't, Canyon can sell you the bearings, or that ebay shop has them on their site http://www.kineticbikebearings.com/

https://instagram.com/p/BQfwIgqjW-I/

#turbogate

What was it?

Did they really remove it??

Canyon posted a picture of Tony Martin warming up on his Canyon Ultimate CF Slx on a set of rollers instead of a turbo trainer, with the caption that said something like:
"Tony Martin warming up on Tacx Antares, combining training and carbon fibre bike without stressing the frame by clamping it on a turbo trainer".
People started to ask on the comment below if the use of their frames on a turbo trainer voids their warranty, and indeed Canyon quoted their R&D that said that indeed their bike shouldn't be used on a turbo trainer. And if the bike break or crack if used on a turbo trainer, it won't be replaced under their warranty.

No wonder why they erased the post as the comments started to go pretty crazy.

Well they made in the Giant Factory.

Does Giant have the same warranty policy?

Hilarious. I wish I had read that.

I was thinking of doing a turbo session on my Aeroad the other day, just so the bloody thing could get ridden. I best park that idea before I explode

@Breso - No because Giant are not a shower of c*nts

I wonder why Canyon are still supplying their bikes for Zwift events...

It's odd, I was thinking how it can be damaged.

All I can think of is that their frame isn't strong enough to withstand the side flex on the turbo trainer when the wheel have th correct quick release and tighten accordingly.

Frames are designed to withstand an inherent amount of flex from a 100kg bloke giving it some gigawatts but when the same bloke is out of the saddle, giving it some beans in his garage with the back axle completely fixed in place the force has got to go somewhere and these forces will probably end up somewhere around the BB / seat cluster. Carbon will have a safe working load that will never be exceeded under regular use, but it's possible when fixing one point that the stresses get a bit close to this point for Canyon to be happy with. I'm surprised nobody has done the FEA analysis to show this, although I'm guessing Canyon have, hence why they're saying not to use carbon bikes on a turbo.

I've never felt confident using carbon frames on a turbo due to the reasons listed above, I'm surprised more companies don't follow suit, especially with Zwift types hammering it inside nowadays as opposed to a steady sat down turbo spin.

I'm surprised nobody has done the FEA analysis to show this, although I'm guessing Canyon have, hence why they're saying not to use carbon bikes on a turbo.

I can only assume that if they did their analysis was just due to the fact that a large amount of their frame was sent back for cracks and failures. Without having any physical shop where their people can assess the issue and understand clearly what caused the problem they have to cut the loss by limiting warranty replacement as much as possible.
I wouldn't be surprise if they start to say that their bikes are not intended to be used on rough terrains and damaged tarmac and because of that they won't replace any bike that has been used on an enclosed racing track.

I've always been told that carbon bikes don't take kindly to being clamped in to turbos, and especially direct drive ones, but considering I've never seen any real world damage or even heard any anecdotes of actual failure, I took it with a pinch of salt...

Maybe message this guy and ask what da fuq!?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattheitmann?authType=name&authToken=8qP-&locale=en_US&srchid=1744549771487204324653&srchindex=6&srchtotal=139&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A1744549771487204324653%2CVSRPtargetId%3A50634108%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary%2CVSRPnm%3Afalse%2CauthType%3Aname

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All those voided warranties

@Mechanism they don't weigh 100kg and don't have vast amount of mis-placed testosterone to offload onto indoor "racing". I'm sure the bikes will be fine.

Why not just put a weight limit then?

It's pretty simple really. If you have someone out the saddle, swinging off their bike there is going to be additional forces than those consistent with riding on the road.

Do I use my carbon bike on a turbo = yes
Would I recommend to someone I didn't know to use a carbon bike on a turbo = no

Just my opinion.

I've been offered a canyon AL 2012 frame and forks for very cheap, but know very little about the frame. It's a medium, so does that equate to about 55cm top tube c-t-c?

Also, does it require odd sized stem and seat post? Or is it all fairly standard?

Cheers

I was riding a medium (i think 2012) quite comfortably so it might be a bit small for you ..

What do you normally ride? 54?