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And once/if Scotland leaves, unless the Tories split, this country is fuuucked.
And yet Blair won by 150+ seats in 1997... The Labour party is in deep trouble at the minute, but there's people out there (and enough of them) who would vote for them if they offered something palatable to those voters.
Of course, this assumes that what you want from your Labour party is a position which is much more of a compromise offering compared to Corbyn et al.
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And yet Blair won by 150+ seats in 1997... The Labour party is in deep trouble at the minute, but there's people out there (and enough of them) who would vote for them if they offered something palatable to those voters.
Things have changed since 1997:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/28/boundary-review-changes-affect-200-labour-party-seats-robert-hayward-report - I haven't done the analysis, but it would be interesting to know whether Labour could ever win a majority without Scotland with these seats gone. I don't think so?
The collapse of the Lib-Dems also favours the Tories. This is reversible, but doesn't give Labour a majority.
A move to the centre could also push voters to other parties (Green in particular) which is a huge risk in marginal seats.
Point being: I concede that Scotland isn't the only issue for Labour, but it's the biggest and the one that can't be turned around if they leave.
It's worth reminding ourselves that Labour was (statistically) unelectable before Corbyn et al came to power. The underlying problem in the UK is the electoral system, which, once again, we can thank the Lib Dems for fucking us over on (a bit of hyperbole here).
And once/if Scotland leaves, unless the Tories split, this country is fuuucked.