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@Technics100
Yeah, thanks for that. I'm not sure there would be much weight difference.. my day-one with rack, guards is up over 12kg.. even ny CDF is 10.3kg without guards.. the alfine day-one is 853 tubing with carbon fork opposed to 725 for the CDF and cro-mo for my current day-one, so frame may be slightly lighter.. to offset it.. yeah I know what you mean about more weight on the back wheel.. AGain the 35mm tyres that come on the day-ones are over 530g each, so you could easily take 200g per wheel off with a tyre..