Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

Pinarello with horizons is a middle aged dad trying to be cool .. time to abandon ship

Relatively flat but treacherous terrain

Canal path KOMs

Oh, were you talking of the HHS mockup? That was just a pisstake I did as I'm sure nobody would splash +£7k for a silly bike in first place.

YES!

Sounds like the 90% of the people on here?

More EC1 forum than on here ..

There's who takes your point about pointless bike gear even more seriously:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fausto-pinarello-we-dont-think-a-high-performance-bike-needs-disc-brakes/

AFAIK it's actually meant to enable short(er) chainstays and more tyre clearance -the tightest pinch point between chainstay/tyre/chainring being the chainring @ 9 o'clock position. Dropping the chainstay further down the chainring gives you more tyre clearance and/or ability to run shorter chainstays.

Pinarello talks about disc brakes the way Kodak once talked about digital cameras.

Phil Gaimon

I thought it was for avoiding chainslap?

Pinarello has 6 disc models this year (of which only one is a racing road bike), Fausto's point was that disc doesn't necessarily mean "we need to use it" in every field, cycling is one of the few things where tradition play an important role, if it wasn't like that we would be all cycling on aero-recumbent bikes with air-con and safety airbags.

Is Gaimon still endorsed by Cannondale even if retired?

Two post above yours, alb explains it.

Ain't that the truth!

Horses for courses. I kinda agree with him. Not every bike needs disc and not every bike needs fat tyres.

Wondring why not go disc on the rear? Fine lookin frameset though. Got any info/link?

Don't have a lot of info, it's done by a Japanese frame builder: http://www.rew10.com/

He specialises is retrofitting old frames. So he probably had some trouble getting the disc mount right with horizontal dropouts/120mm track spacing.

Apologies for hijacking an excellent thread with my own nonsense......but I am reluctantly sending this Rychtarski/Wound Up frameset out the door after building a Niner BSB that essentially cover the same bases. It rides really, really nicely. Let me know if anyone is interested...cheers.

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/299541/#comment13448108

Rodeo Labs Flaanimal.
Looks quite tempting to me.

Do not understand 1x obsession. Why, pls?

Old frames tend not to have strong enough tubes (at the dropouts) to withstand braking forces of a disc caliper. Edit: assuming its a refurbished frame

I got a 1x SRAM crank a while ago as I never used the smaller chainring, you're not going to be climbing mountain roads like you're in the TDF so you don't really need 22 gears

In reality you don't even have 22 gears.. Effectively it's more like 14 or 15 gears. So there's hardly a difference.

Especially when going from 50/34 + 11-28 cassette to a 44 + 10-42 cassette. The range is the same, you just have less parts to go wrong (and easier shifting)

And bigger jumps between gears?

I looked at 1x until I realised I'd have 10" jumps between gears.