• My not so "local" MP has responded to my email:

    Dear Mr jaw,
    Thank you very much for your e-mail. You will appreciate that circumstances surrounding the debate and vote on Wednesday are changing all the time and I am currently seeking to move an amendment to the Government's bill. I will give further details as to my thoughts and intentions later but in the meantime I hope that this explanation as to my thinking ( as of last Friday) is of interest ?
    "As you will appreciate the situation is changing very fast, and I will make a final decision in respect of Article 50 when I have seen the proposed Bill and considered the scope of any amendments which are put forward " "However it will not surprise most people writing to me that my instincts are very much against supporting it.

    I thought it helpful to give you a quick response so here are my (highly summarised!) thoughts:

    I am very conscious that:

    The referendum result, though close, still delivered a majority for ‘leave’ and great care needs to be taken in going against the expressed will of the majority of those who voted. I am unconvinced by those who argue a referendum is merely advisory- that is not how it was perceived, and the concerns which underpinned the 52% leave vote must be heard, understood and responded to.

    Article 50 is not, in itself, an outcome. It is the trigger to start negotiations, and no more. Arguably it has achieved a symbolic importance beyond its actual significance because of the court case about whether MPs in Parliament or the Prime Minister alone should make the decision. The court case was not about whether or not to start negotiations.

    Whilst both Westminster constituencies voted convincingly for ‘remain’, as did London as a whole, I am wary of the argument that, as a matter of principle, MPs should vote in line with the majority view locally. Setting aside the constitutional argument (MPs are representatives, not delegates) the logic of this argument, if followed, would mean that all MPs in areas where ‘leave’ won would be expected to vote to leave regardless of their assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of the argument.

    However:

    I haven’t changed my mind about the benefits of Europe, economic or cultural, the values of co-operation and the benefits of free trade within the single market and the customs union. Also, importantly, the horrors of Europe’s past can never be forgotten.

    I find it hard to support a rush into negotiations which seem highly likely, on the evidence, to make Britain as a whole, London and this constituency in particular, poorer. Even though I don’t think MPs should treat a local result as a specific mandate, we must balance the views and interests of constituents alongside the national interest! 48% of the voting public voted remain (70% in Westminster) and their concerns must be represented too.
    The referendum result was a message about departure, not about destination. it reflected deep concerns about a range of issues, including migration. But the extent to which voters intended a particular outcome in respect of trade, the single market, the customs union and so on is open to interpretation. For example, the Conservative manifesto at the last election promised the referendum whilst stressing the importance of staying within the single market, and prominent 'leave' campaigners also stated that a leave vote would be read as opposition to the single market.

    Even though, out of the tangled messages emerging from the government, ministers also appear to be saying that they would prefer “a comprehensive free trade area and customs agreement" which will deliver "the exact same benefits" as single market membership, it is hard to see how such a thing is deliverable. Surely if it were, we would not have had to go through the lengthy negotiations to create the Single Market in the first place? In practice, we are likely to face a difficult, lengthy, process of withdrawal and equally hard negotiations to establish new agreements not just with the EU but also with other states across the world with whom our current deals are derived via the EU. Every single deal with another country about trade and migration will have an (as yet unpredictable, but possibly bad) effect on Westminster residents.

    Perhaps most importantly, the threat of ‘no deal’ at the end of this short negotiation period leading to the re-casting of Britain as a de-regulated tax haven would be intolerable. The government should not be contemplating a race to the bottom, threatening public services, employee rights, consumer, environmental and other standards- nor should anyone be threatening it.

    It seems highly unlikely there will be a meaningful opportunity for Parliament to vote on the acceptability of the proposed deal at the end of a two-year long, largely secret, negotiating process. Theresa May dodged a specific question on this point when given the opportunity at Prime Minster's Questions on Wednesday. We also do not know whether the government will be able to avoid a disastrous, last-minute, cliff edge. A ‘take it or leave it’ offer from the government, when both the ‘take it’ and the ‘leave it’ options are bad for Britain and Westminster would be unacceptable. It would effectively mean no real choice at all.

    Of course there are dozens of specific points I could address, ranging from my on-going concern about the status of EU citizens in Britain/British citizens abroad, the impact on the other countries within the UK, our relationship with European agencies like Europol, but I thought you would want to know my overall position prior to the forthcoming votes.As you will appreciate the situation is changing very fast, and I will make a final decision in respect of Article 50 when I have seen the proposed Bill and considered the scope of any amendments which are put forward "

    Thanks again for writing.

    Kind regards

    Karen Buck

  • Article 50 is not, in itself, an outcome.

    Also, this is entirely false, is it not? My understanding was that once article 50 is triggered, you leave in 2 years. There are no take baksies allowed

  • No-one knows, as it's never been tested in law.

    It's possible that, after 18 months of negotiations, the UK Government decides that any deal it's going to get is unpalatable and decides to remain in the EU. What the EU could or would do in that situation is unknown.

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