EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

When the vote happened representatives for a large number of the financial institutions in spoke to this publicly and privately. Loss of access permanently or temporarily creates far to much uncertainty. How can you think they wont?

Yeah, you were doing a good job of changing my stereotypes of Brexit voters. You hadn't said 'Will of the people' once!, but then......

"EU need us more than we need them?"

Well my apologies, I was proffering a suggestion.

Have a good day.

'Will of the people'

^ Just for you Housecat ;)

This thread is a bit of a weird one as it's basically 99% of people agreeing with each other. There was a lot of talk how the result wasn't foreseen as people were in their echo chambers where everyone agreed with them and this is a prime example.

I post on another forum (with a somewhat more Northern, working class bias) and it's more like 50:50 on there. Very few, if any, of the people who voted brexit are having regrets on there, their view is that more remainers will be coming over to their side as things progress. Nothing that's happened so far has gone against the primary aim of getting out from under the EU's control.

What he says is that there is a greater risk of financial instability in the EU than there is in the UK, he doesn't say that the EU has more to lose (ultimately), that's what the Telegraph are saying that he said, from my reading of that article anyway.

excellent

@maveco is doing a pretty good job considering its him vs the rest of us. Haven't read the carney article yet but I am astounded if it is true that the eu will suffer more than the UK under any form of brexit. Need to read more.

This.

I've watched the hearing, read the article (and a couple of others). The "more to lose" quote is BS. He said both are at risk, but the risk is higher in the EU currently.

"I am not saying there are not financial stability risks in the UK, and there are economic risks to the UK, but there are greater short term risks on the continent in the transition than there are in the UK," he said.

That is, Brexit may fuck everyone up, not just the UK. Let's celebrate!

I find the FT is much better at reporting on Brexit - The Telegraph is hugely pro-Brexit, and tend to use alternatively factual statements quite frequently.

We're all just itching for a fight really. That's what 70 years of peace does to the British.

The 'broken things',
coal mining, steel making, shipbuilding, (all the policy of Tory governments),
'bounced back' as an uninformed vote for brexit,
as there was no rebuilding.

We could invade France?

We need more European football.

Not if Marco van Basten is in charge thanks.

Again?
That's not the kind of disruptive thinking the 21st century needs.
Let's invade Latvia.

That's not what I said.

Don't think we have the required naval fleet for amphibious landings,
and,
there are not that many UK registered roro vessels to be acquisitioned,
beyond Caledonian MacBrayne.

We could march through the Chunnel, singing proud Brexit Songs.

It's more Cummings's point than mine, I don't agree that every single point he has is valid. I do see that he is very right about where the anger is being directed by these disaffected classes and why they hold these views.

The major one for me is still the public paying for the vast excesses and failure of the financial industry, then being hit with "tighten your belts as the books have to be balanced". That can fuck right off.

The thing is now is that much of that anger has been redirected against minority groups, the disabled and sick, the long term unemployed and the underclass, all who have little to no recourse to counter such propaganda and defend themselves; and the real issues are not given the same media space.

Bit off the pace here,
in a multi-racial, expert-leaning household.

With which songbook should I be familiarising myself?

Coldplay sings the Red Army Choir's greatest hits.

Usual last night if the proms stuff plus three lions, vindaloo and that dambusters one with the lyrics naah nah nah nah na na na nah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XxK2JJisEc

Just sang the chorus, to myself.
('O'-level Russian '76, bit too expert-ist to be a brexitter).
csb

I live in NI.

There are a few types here, from my observations:

Unionist brexit voters, cos the DUP swallows all the BS from May that it will be fine
People that didn't read all the warnings [hi all over the UK] and have a faith I think is misplaced
Those who hope this means an united Ireland
Socialist exiters (hard-left such as PBP)
"Take back control" which means so little I can't get a meaningful grip on it
Stop foreign aid/immigration

Is that a correct observation?