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  • I'll repeat this re: Obama

    I purposefully didn't mention Obama because I didn't want to see an argument follow.

    Anyway, you clearly have a better sense of his FP than I do. What is it that you're referring to? I'm missing some key events/issues. What I've seen has been about economic isolationism, and withdrawal, or shift of, military burdens away from the US (Nato, East Asia) when it comes to alliances. Two other FP issues come to mind - his policy on Taiwan (mentioned) and his policy on Israel.

  • Israel policy is moving beyond talk, relocating the embassy is the end of the two state solution.

    Taiwan is just part of the China problem. Baiting a trade war, Tillerson talked about kicking the Chinese off disputed island during his confirmation hearing.

    Talks of removing Russian sanctions (FUCK)

    Withdrawing or limiting support to Nato/UN

    Already working towards ending/limiting humanitarian aid in the developing world.

  • With the exception of Taiwan (which again, I think is madness), none of that shouts out as being particularly interventionist to me, and most of the other points (Nato, ending humanitarian aid, removing sanctions) strike me as much more isolationist.

    Maybe you disagree, cool, but I think we can agree that his FP is shit. I just happen to think it could be much, much, worse. Trump + neo-con madness, in particular.

    I hope I'm right.

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