I have used the new gen shimano (5800, although 4700 has a different ratio) as well as sram (rival 1) .. I got away with it because I was using a narrow rim. Do you hate cantis?
Not especially. Just working out my options. Only time I've used canti's they were a bit deadly in the wet, but I think that had more to do with ceramic rims as V's weren't much better.
I have used the new gen shimano (5800, although 4700 has a different ratio) as well as sram (rival 1) .. I got away with it because I was using a narrow rim. Do you hate cantis?