Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

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  • Mondial is reduced online - is it reduced in store?

  • Not in the windblock version, only normal (in maroon). Sozzles

  • Online with a pair of socks to take me over £100 it is then.

    Ta anyway.

  • PTJ isn't waterproof/resistant anymore - any options?

  • Try the Pro Team Softshell jacket, it is marvellous

  • Yes, the answer is buy another one but also wondering what I can do to this one

  • With you - I am sure DWR treatments on garments has been covered on the thread before, not sure that will give you what you are after though.

  • If you've been washing with standard detergents, it probably has surfactant residue which inhibits the original DWR function, and allow moisture to permeate the fabric far quicker (as it's designed to do).

    Standard detergents are fantastic for getting standard clothing clean - and increasingly more efficiently at lower temperatures - the surfactant action lowers the surface tension of the water allowing the cleaning chemicals to penetrate further into the fabric structure and yarn itself. For technical fabrics/fibres that have specific performance functions like wicking or waterproofing, the physics are simply contradicting one another.

    You can try laundering the PTJ with a specific technical wash like Grangers (after doing a service wash on your machine to remove any regular detergent residue!) and then apply a re-proofer. Make sure you follow the reproofing instructions really closely. You need to 'activate' the new coating with a gentle heat like evenly drying a few cm from a radiator, or with a cool iron, or cool tumble. If you just spray the reproofer on, it's not nearly as effective and you probably won't see any results.

    Oh, and don't use a softener either, this has the same wetting-out effect, and definitely no Bio/biological detergents.

    This probably seems long-winded, but the more durable and effective DWR's are being phased out (due to environmental concerns of by products in manufacturing) so correct washing and re-application is essential to maintain performance ...much like a bike....

    Let us know how you get on!

  • While we have you here for a 2013/14 PTJ whats the best way to get rid of oil, road residue etc? Had a crash, then repaired and the jacket has been washed twice but still a bit of road residue ..

  • Bio detergent. 50 degrees.

  • I use Shout to get oil/grass/food stains out. Also get some Oxy clean or use neat stain remover.

  • Red wine?

  • Oh, wait no, white wine.

  • Or was it milk?

  • I heard a rumour you washed you skinsuit everyday on the CCC with Head & Shoulders....

  • More like a bar of soap and water!

  • Emmet's lane more specifically the last corner

  • Ahem. The majority of stain removers will contain a bleach, sometimes a bio enzyme, and usually an optical brightner to accelerate all aspects of cleaning and the perceived final result.

    Is it the back of the jacket thats particularly bad? The face of the stretchy PTJ back fabric is nylon so will stand up to any direct stain remover you can find in a supermarket, but I'd err on the side of the gentle ones and only apply direct to the dirty area and not soak the whole jacket. A quick look and Ace Gentle Stain Remover looks low on the bleach with no bio, or try the old Vanish soap bar, no bleach, but does has a bio enzyme (so avoid if you have skin complaints). Rinse thoroughly :-)

  • how dare you!

    I have far superior haircare products.

  • perfect! thanks :) Its the orange version and its on front, drive side-ish.

  • ahhh, basically just go easy on it, just try to scrub the stained surface, rather than right into the membrane layer :-)

  • When does the free postage land . I only want a winter hat for the lady.

  • Buy >£100, stuff arrives, don't bother to send anything back. No postage!

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