EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Putin has lots to gain from breaking up the EU I'd say.

Probably feels the same way as we did when the CCCP disolved. Who would want an economically and militarily powerful neighbour with an opposing ideology ? Can't blame the man for that ;-)

Oh, I totally understand, but as Russia has a low regard for human rights, high levels of corruption and the average life expectancy lowered after the USSR broke up EVEN with all the oil I'm not so happy with Putin's reign of misinformation/general assholery.

I don't see a win-win or moderate lose-win scenario here. He's stoking xenophobia too/promoting misinformation, which is a win for him but also for the global 0.0001%

It's time to sell those issues as both a security risk/economic harmful issue, but people are distracted by identity politics atm it seems :/

"Her husband, Robert, raised another issue: that Europeans married to Britons do not have an automatic right to citizenship. “As a British citizen, I had the expectation that marrying someone from abroad would automatically give them the right to become a British citizen. That seems to be the case unless your wife happens to come from the European Union,” he said."

What The Fuck... (and the whole rest of this)

beyond depressing

My bro told me not to get so angry about politics and just chill....this just won't help :):)

divorced. i wonder why?

What The Fuck

How do you mean? As in the husband's assumption or that you didn't know that?

Working with foreigners means I couldn't help but feel the parties displayed taint of arrogance and ignorance. But that's (sadly) probably because I take that description as a given.

My favourite is a solicitor who went to school, uni, and law school here. Was married to a UK citizen for +5yrs with a kid. Continously employed, higher rate, etc. but just kept using their work visa rather than getting a spousal or citizenship.

Even with all that getting a spousal visa was a nightmare every step of the way.

She'll be eligible, but that doesn't mean it happens automatically.

just going to leave this here.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/172343

Also this.

https://skwawkbox.org/2016/12/30/proof-farage-applied-for-german-citizenship-and-hes-under-police-investigation-for-it/

Is he pretending his moobs are pecs?

I wonder why he's calling himself Alan Lee when he's really called Andrew Royston:
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/insider/archive/1/2016

“As a British citizen, I had the expectation that marrying someone from abroad would automatically give them the right to become a British citizen. That seems to be the case unless your wife happens to come from the European Union,”

Except this is a red herring because her application was rejected because she didn't include her passport, although she had followed the rules and used a solicitor approved copy.

So it seems like a simple cock up, not a Brexit conspiracy. Government department in cock up shocker, but I suppose if the Gruniad went with that angle it wouldn't be pushing its reader's buttons so much...

I'm not sure how
The ongoing police case puts beyond doubt the question of whether Nigel Farage made an application for a German passport.

Is supported by some emails with no reference to Farage.

STFU Mr 'expert'. Your services are no longer necessary as of 2016

That's what I thought. But fuck the facts, let's lynch the purple cunt.

Even if someone has made a complaint against Farage, the fact that it's still open after three months may just mean the police hasn't gotten round to looking into it yet. And it's entirely possible the complaint is unfounded - this is way too early in any legal process for anyone to be claiming it means anything.

Yes and no.

The passport copy rejection and lack of communication is typical useless bureaucracy. The form is also 40 pages and you need to give 5 years of travel history. Massive hassle.

But why only EU citizens are excluded from automatic UK citizenship if they marry a UK citizen I do find strange.

So the husband is wrong here? It reads to me there's stricter rules from EU citizens?

Not that the home office is very flexible for UK citizens on low income that want to bring spouses from abroad EU either...

What exactly is that "working with foreigner" supposed to mean? How does bear relationship to the story? How it is relevant one couple stayed with visa?

In my case I lose my Dutch citizenship if I take UK citizenship there can be several reasons.

The husband seems to be of the opinion that his spouse can simply be rubber-stamped as a British Citizen. Foreign nationals will need to become settled* for a certain qualifying period before they can become naturalised.

*Exact terminology may vary depending on the immigration route in question.

Why is it better to deport them than to incarcerate them? If you incarcerate there is a cost, but you also a) (in theory) rehabilitate them and b) you know where they are.

Do you seriously think that someone sits down and thinks 'lets make these citizenship application forms as difficult as possible' to catch people out ?

Try Claiming disability living allowance. Or anything involving the DWP.

Tory Britain.

Try Claiming disability living allowance.

Take a fucking long time, tax credit is much easier tho.

Yes.