• I quite fancy big off-idle torque, an auto box and a comfier ride.

    Alpina rather than M5 then. The M5 engine is a beast, but you have to rev it hard before it gives up the goods.

  • Agreed. The V10 M5 feels like it has the wrong engine in for a big superbarge, it ought to be in a smaller saloon with a manual box.

    If it's torque you're after I still miss the V10 Toerag I used to tow with. It would beat everything off the lights whilst pulling 2.5 tonnes. Not exactly glamorous, but a great sleeper car for motorway work.

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