Doping

The Graun initially called it 'Frumicil'.

Can you guarantee that the ingredients of the medicine in France are the same as the UK? If not, then why risk it?

The medicine that can't be given to asthmatics that was being flown from the UK especially to give to someone who was apparently suffering from such sever asthma he was getting TUEs for corticos?

Perhaps not. That makes the whole thing seem perfectly reasonable to me.

https://pharmacybook.net/acetylcysteine-fluimucil/

He wasn't getting the TUEs for asthma, it was for severe allergy attacks, of which asthma is merely a symptom.

One wonders why we bother training doctors and pharmacists when access to Google and a Twitter account can make you a medical expert in 30 seconds.

There is some advice that asthmatics may suffer side effects from Fluimucil and that their condition should be monitored after taking it and the course stopped if these manifest themselves. There is nothing to say that asthmatics cannot take the medicine.

This is all so pointless - everyone's made up their own mind already, and no amount of reasoned debate is going to change it.

We do not know Wiggins medical history, and, rightly, due to patient confidentiality we never will. The point still remains that all the products he is known to have taken are either not banned substances in or out of competition, or can be taken with a TUE in competition if that is granted through the proper process. Which remains the case. So we can reasonably conclude that, despite the hopes of certain sections of the UK press and a few people on Twitter, no rules have been broken and there is no case to answer.

It was part of an ongoing investigation, couldn't talk about it.

I'd probably trust the licensed drug in France rather than the un-licensed UK one.

Having said that, whether French or UK it's going to be the same drug manufactured by Zambon

If you've got some of the medicine at HQ, a guy is flying over to visit, you ask him to bring it along, suddenly it becomes a whole thing.

The point still remains that all the products he is known to have taken are either not banned substances in or out of competition, or can be taken with a TUE in competition if that is granted through the proper process.

I guess it depends if you believe the mystery package is Fluimucil. BC/Sky have not put their case forward very well in this instance.

So why did it take two months to come to the answer and why only under duress?

BTW, according to the Guardian feed, it's unlicensed in the UK.

Before we go down the "unlicensed" rabbit hole

Here are some examples of unlicensed uses:

use of a licensed medicine for an age group that is not covered by its licence
use of a licensed medicine for an illness that is not included in its licence
use of a medicine that is only available from abroad and has to be imported (it may have a licence in other countries)
use of a medicine that needs to be made specially because it cannot be obtained easily; for example, a patient may not be able to swallow a tablet or capsule (which is licensed) and needs a liquid (unlicensed) version of the medicine. Many medicines that are widely used are unlicensed. This gives doctors more choice about which medicine to use than if they could only use licensed medicines.

The license is permission to promote the drug's use for a specific group of patients for the manufacturer, not permission or not to prescribe.

So why did it take two months to come to the answer and why only under duress?

Because they probably thought it best to tell the UKADA investigating team first, before telling anyone else. No matter how they handled it, it was not going to satisfy those who think wrongdoing has occurred here, so they really couldn't win.

Are you in the UCI registered testing pool? Because if you're not it doesn't matter what you take, whereas if you are, it can be a career ending matter.

Unfortunately this particular dog whistle is being blown, 'unlicensed' being read as illegal, good to hear it being explained rationally.

One wonders why we bother training doctors and pharmacists when access to Google and a Twitter account can make you a medical expert in 30 seconds.

This. Allergy treatments for anyone are incredibly nuanced, for top level athletes even more so. I have zero idea what drugs Brad should or shouldn't be taking, because I am not a doctor and I don't know Brad's condition. I do know it wasn't simply asthma though.

David Walsh believes we're being subjected to, and I quote, "a massive cover up".

Meanwhile he continues to ask no questions of his beloved rugby union.

Graun reporting Fluimucil is not recommended to be taken if the patient has Asthma

Did they also remind everybody that asthmatics are advised to avoid aspirin and ibuprofen unless they already know that this class of NSAIDs doesn't trigger their asthma?

Oh boy

So it appears to be a legal thing that might do more than than meets the eye.

Incidental EPO boosting effects observed in obscure research = Pro Cycling team doctors are fucking amazing.

Wait what? CF was being injected with this stuff?= Pro Cycling team doctors are fucking amazing.

I wouldnt be so quick to defend him.

Her allegations have been substantiated by other riders including Victoria Pendleton and Nicole Cooke who 'claimed there was a culture of sexism and bullying in the organisation while Sutton was in charge' Anyone who believes sexism and or bullying is acceptable or who refers to paracyclists as“wobblies” or “gimps” can fuck right off.

I hope her appeal is upheld. If he was innocent he'd have stayed.

Horrible cunt.

Brailsford trying to get the jiffy bag story buried:

'Brailsford was desperate for the story not to be published, fearing it could be the end for Team Sky. That it would take them all down.

He offered me an alternative, 'more positive', story. He asked if a good story on a rival team might be enough to stop me investigating the allegation.

And before the meeting ended, he made a final attempt to regain control of a troubling situation. 'If you didn't write the story, is there anything else that could be done?' Brailsford asked me.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4049686/Sportsmail-s-meeting-Sir-Dave-Brailsford-hide-didn-t-just-tell-truth.html

Offering dirt on other teams? Wow.

When did you become a tabloid journalist's wet dream?

How is man tries to prevent negative story about his organisation from being published a news story? Especially as that conversation was almost certainly conducted off the record.

Matt Lawton works for the Daily Mail, let's not forget. Any claim he stakes for the moral high ground should be rejected as a matter of principle. It's not like the Mail don't have an agenda here - Sky are owned by a rival media company, they hate cycling and the idea of bringing down the reputation of a big name makes their cocks fizz for weeks.

It's bullshit. They've uncovered a molehill and are trying to turn it into a mountain.