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  • even if I reduced my pension to the absolute minimum

    I count my contribution to my pension as saving.
    The absolute minimum is zero as you can always opt out.

    becoming increasingly aware and quite angry at the levels of consumerism around me and the throw-away attitude the people around me have and the environmental impact this has...
    New Zealand

    Ah you'll love it. It changed my outlook on life practically 180 degrees.
    It's not an environmentally-friendly place though.

    The article might not be showing any hard numbers, but you're just making them up.

    No, I got the numbers from the Evening Standard and rightmove. What am I missing (genuine question)?

    i really don't see what you're saying with this thread apart from telling us how good you are with money

    To see who else is saving and why and how. I guess the first post wasn't my greatest moment.

  • No, I got the numbers from the Evening Standard and rightmove. What am
    I missing (genuine question)?

    Sample size? Who conducted the survey and for whom? Undisclosed numbers/workers? Likewise goes for Rightmove. Rightmove encompasses all people in London now? If their numbers are mathematically acquired from their own system, what about the rest that don't use that?
    What about travel costs which you seem to have swung past. If I wasn't into cycling (and the majority of people in this city aren't), I'd get fucking rinsed every month commuting. There's no way I can afford to live in the first 3 zones, and I'm gonna go on a limb here and say anyone within the service industry (Something I can kinda speak of) and save anything.
    It's a very big brush you're sweeping across with.

  • Sample size for a 30k median salary in London, don't know, ask the Evening Standard. Rightmove... like I said, that's my own median. 600 a month for a houseshare doesn't sound right?

    You'll get rinsed by transport costs anywhere, that's why I choose to ride to work too - Zone 4 to the city is 45 minutes-ish, about the same as my commute. Replace my occasional car use with occasional public transport and broadly it'll be similar. A few people can't ride, but most people can. In some cities most people do.

    Like I've said, you can't live the same lifestyle and expect to save more. But it's not easy and not everyone's able to do it, you're right. But I think most people on a median salary can save a fair chunk, and even on a low income it's possible to save a bit.

  • There's no way I can afford to live in the first 3 zones, and I'm gonna go on a limb here and say anyone within the service industry (Something I can kinda speak of) and save anything.

    Bingo.

    Even with my disabled rail card and Freedom Pass, there's no way I can afford to take the train and rent a place, both almost cost equal amount of money.

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