EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

brexier, brexiest.

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honestly I'm done with the whole thing - toss a fucking coin, I don't care - as long as I never hear that fucking word Brexit again........

I admire your energy but I personally think approaching this in such a polarising and militant way is just repeating the same mistake that has caused such a massive political rift in society.

Understanding people's concerns and having a proper dialogue without calling people racists or SJWs would be far more productive.

Everyone needs unity, not only liberals. Otherwise it's just echo chambers shouting at each other.

i hear you...

How much time did Donald Trump or Nigel Farage spend understanding liberals and worrying about unity? None. Conservatives fight ruthlessly - liberals worry about 'understanding' their opponent, not beating them out of existence.

I'd say the Right understand the Left far more than vise-versa and are much better at unifying themselves so they're half way there.

The right are more easily able to unify as they generally wish for the status quo, and nothing they fight for will ever really have any negative consequence for themselves.

The left, not so much.

Large portions of the left have swung so far around that they've become quite right wing in a lot of ways.

The right wing is happy to exploit fear, tribalism and other security shortcuts into our ape brain.

The left doesn't stoop down that low. It's got other issues (a little more real politik would be nice, the EU is shit to refugees but do you really think the current UK gov is better if you are not in power? Hah) but it won't do that.

TL:DR the right has it easier. And what jezton said.

The left is also not religious linked, with religion still holding on to power/being IN power in the house of Lord you can expect a well funded fight against you too.

Faith, hope and charity is it not?

tory / charity are mutually exclusive.

vicars on bicycles

Why are they so pro-car then?

I have four PCs on this desk. I'm totally rocking a PC community.

Better be UK made, yeah? ;)

amstrads.

Windows crashed earlier. PC gone mad.

C64? ;)

How so - In ideology? In method?

Such a good film

The left doesn't stoop down that low.

You sure about that?

IndyScot ref- remain was project fear.

EU brexit ref- remain was project fear.

US presidential election- Hillary was project fear.

In all of the above there was so little positive campaigning from the so called left, so little content.

gee, i'd say 'vote for me, I'm not a massive hate filled nazi who will burn the country to the ground to prove a point' is a pretty positive message.

I've not really seen project fear from lexit?

indyref I am not sure, USA not sure what they've done.

Could they have done better on lexit, yes. But I don't see this "immigrants are stealing our jobs" or "immigrants are second class only here to make us money then we can kick them out" or "us VS them".

I may have missed something though.

I know what you mean, but that is still the - vote for me because I am not as bad as that guy.

the problem is when the voters are hate filled nazis who are too fucking stupid to see that they are cutting off their noses to spite their faces

especially when they are so blind to their prejudices that they can't see that when they say "i am not racist/sexist/... but..." it is usually followed by a racist/sexist or similar discriminatory statement