I do find when you find the sweet spot, they'd stop a mad max truck on a dime, but most of the time it's always that 'shwing shwing' following you till death do you part.
Considering how cheap hydro is now, It just doesn't make sense unless you enjoy franken biking everything.
Fair enough, haven't tried them for a long time, been really happy with the BB7s on my mtb, would say they outperform hydros even.