EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

So it seems UKIP are under investigation for taking donations towards their Brexit campaign that they shouldn't have done. Could this mean I can continue clutching at straws and hoping the referendum lead-up propaganda and the subsequent result will be revealed as a whole lot of fictitious nonsense, peddled by a load of corrupt types and then overturned? Tell me I can...

I think it's already been revealed, more or less. It's just that no one seems to care in addressing it.

There seem to be few rules RE referendum lobbying groups. Seems a case of "yeah lads go ahead"

Well it was only advisory, so it's no big deal.

Oh.

What was 'only advisory', the result or these investigations?

Oh indeed!

There are already very few rules in normal elections...One I know of, but there could be more, is that you have to go back on a clear promise before the House of Lords can tell you to stuff it.

See the working tax credits Tories shamble.

But stating lies as fact (the aul NHS bus), suggesting bullcrap (Turkey could join the EU!!! Aye, yer ma...) may happen in normal elections too. Are there any rules, and are referenda groups handily exclude cos they are not politicians?

Peanuts?
Forrin muck,
in the sunlit upland brexhit future you will make do with with dry roasted marrowfat peas,
and,
be grateful

Peanuts come from US, Africa etc... closer ties, ex commonwealth, new trading relationships and all that. We're still good for peanuts.

But I reckon he's more your pork scratching and a pickled egg kind of guy.

And you'll only be allowed to buy said marrowfat peas from Wetherspoon!

As a perfect accompaniment to your guaranteed Ihnguhlish cider.

Tim Martin could even spark a perry revival.

Agreed, the scratchings/pickled eggs fit with his 'beer-swilling man-of-the-people' persona,
but I don't see how you get through Dulwich College then a (short) career as a 'trader'/spiv without picking up a wine/spirit habit?

Ha! With that in mind, it seems I've got nothing to fear...

Can't speak for Dulwich but as a trader he would be in the after work beers brigade. His role would rarely have involved the fine wine lunch. If he did develop that habit, it would have been done on expenses in Brussels while not defending the British fishing industry from near collapse.

You own a pear orchard?

I see he's having a go at career politicians now. This from a man who's been an MEP since 1999 and has tried, and failed, to be elected to parliament seven times.

How does he get taken seriously by anyone, the man's a fucking joke.

I don't. I do own a pair of shoes however. They may aid my escape to the continent when thee olde Engurlish revival begins.

Was Farage part of the "official" leave campaign. I seem to remember not from some article I read (or there may have been multiple official ones).

I know that he was more in the during-work beers brigade. His bunch would bounce between doing a few trades and having a few pints in Leadenhall Market all day long.

Also, he barely drinks now - a couple of pints for the cameras and he's done.

but as a trader

I may be wrong but I believe he was a broker. I once had an old school City type tell me quite sincerely, face as serious as ever and after a few drinks that 'You should never, ever, ever... trust a broker'

He publicly endorsed Leave.eu

Bollinger, coke and Russian brasses, Shirley?

From what I've seen, some people defend him cos he trolls the EU and they "establishment" and that's enough for them.

Queue some justification on how "he's telling the truth" and other non sequiturs. He's part of their tribe, so he's good.

Was Farage part of the "official" leave campaign.

He wasn't part of the most visible one, Vote Leave - that was Gove's / Borris et al I think (and also the one that did the NHS lies). It was the 'official' campaign, from what I can understand.

IIRC Farage was not in his wildest dreams expecting a victory, did little to influence the result (within albeit fairly narrow timeframe), and now claims credit for it.

Trump is seemingly using Farage to get him to object to wind farms spoiling the views on his golf courses in Scotland (and I'm sure Farage wouldn't mind doing some favours in return for being made to feel important)

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/with-a-meeting-trump-renewed-a-british-wind-farm-fight.html

Yes, I had a feeling that one of the campaigns, probably Vote Leave, was fairly disparaging about his influence.

I guess the issue is whether an unofficial campaign which breaks the rules can be a reason to discount the result.