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  • Interesting

    Batshit nuts, you mean. Irrespective of the policies of either Trump or Clinton, irrespective of their actions and statements in the run up to the election, those reasons are ridonk. Trump's entire industry and business has been based on overextending credit, defaulting, ignoring codes and licensing, and not least, evading / avoiding taxes at the corporate and personal level.

    As to not being beholden? You don't end up handing over billions in real estate to someone like Carl Icahn through the kindness of your heart.

  • I don't agree with her but I don't think you can write off that many people - the 'soft' trump vote, as it were - as batshit nuts. We need to try and understand.

  • I don't write off the people - just those particular demonstrably false lines of reasoning.

  • Correct, but they also need to try and understand that some groups are understandably scared.

    I mean, look at the shit in Northern Ireland understanding DUP voters doesn't mean the issues for LGBT people/women just magically vanish.

    (and this is true for any vote BTW...I may unintended cause some bother for some with my votes too)

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