US Politics

Seems to have been a very low democratic turnout. Trump won with fewer votes than Romney got against Obama.
We've been conducting an extremely unscientific straw poll in Parliament over the last month or so, as one of our jobs is to talk to visitors. Most American visitors thought both candidates were awful, and roughly equal portions of them said they would vote with little enthusiasm for one or the other, but it was a case of voting for the least worst option.
A few people admitted to be enthusiastic Trump supporters, and these people tended to be very vocal.
I honestly met no actual registered American voters who said they liked Clinton.
As I said, very unscientific, but that was the way the wind seemed to be blowing.

We were done with 'experts' of all kinds already (didn't you get the memo from Mr Gove?!), but surely Germanic grammar pedants are especially redundant and to be deposed from their lofty College-educated perches?

Txt spk 4 lyf, y'all.

Of course well educated people supported Bernie as did people from all ''levels'' of society and ethnic background.
I'm all against labelling & I get what you mean but (as I understand it) when Hedges, a well known and respected political analyst addresses the ''college-educated elites'' he is referring to those that work on behalf of multimillion dollar/blood sucking corporations and not of all people with a higher education.
He even wrote so in his first sentence: College-educated elites, on behalf of corporations, carried out the savage neoliberal assault on the working poor.

Education is brought up in the sense of a social privilege one has to be able to attend an Ivy League school (crazy expensive tuitions & often some sort of strong political/family connections) and therefore find employment in the aforementioned corporations.

Well that's what I understood anyway.

It was certainly painfully clear that Obama had very little actual decision-making power. Since Trump doesn't seem to have much in the way of policy, strategy or agenda, or any political experience, I think we should be more fearful of the old-school career republicans who'll hold the reins...for the NEXT FOUR YEARS!

The empowerment of right-wing, angry people in this whole process is frightening nonetheless.

Let them do, let them do...

That was because the republicans held the house and vetoed most stuff though. That won't be the case for Trump.

https://twitter.com/libe/status/796435647724716035/photo/1

https://twitter.com/James_J_Gordon/status/796196374509486080/photo/1

I think his first step will be to dismantle Obama care, which currently was half baked anyway so far. Health insurance companies must be rubbing there hands.
Hopefully he can close guantamo bay something Obama never achieved in 8 years.
I suspect many of his big ticket items will be watered down. (Fingers crossed)

I can't wait until he builds that wall. Everyone knows Mexicans dig tunnels!

Ah yeah gotcha, out of reach for most universities not equal to mostly open EU/UK university system.

Unfortunately we are seeing "career politicians" and cliques everywhere now.

There are still some exceptions luckily. Like Trump :p

Another article, less pessimistic about how trump won...and why Bernie could also have won had people read wiki leaks

https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/dear-democrats-read-this-if-you-do-not-understand-why-trump-won-5a0cdb13c597#.bxsn51a75

You also need to consider Donald Trump just overthrew a group of political elites who have been ruling this country for decades. He just beat the political establishment singlehandedly. No matter what you think about him personally, he just accomplished something historic to become our President.

drain the swamp donald

You don't see Republican dinosaurs like Gingrich as swampkeepers?

just overheard in this office I'm contracting in atm

"I hope he does something about the hispanics, because in a way they're treated worse than the negroes".

you work in downton abbey?

Office or plantation?

why haven't arizona, new hampshire and michigan reported yet ?

could hilary still win ?

The Electoral College currently stands at 279 for Trump to 228 for Clinton. 39 electoral votes remain and Trump is projected to win Arizona (11 votes) and Michingan (16 votes) anyway. 270 electoral votes is the theoretical magic number.

are the counts disputed in these electoral colleges then ?
are they doing recounts or are they still waiting for bubba's ballot to get airboated in from the swamp ?

I suspect a variety of the executive orders that Obama put through in the last year will be undone.

On Guantanamo, during the campaign his view was that more people should be sent there, including American citizens. He said they should “load it up with some bad dudes".

Indeed.

Like Brexit, it's not that the USA is suddenly a massive hothouse of racism, but the politicians can see it as a mandate to be racist/sexist/etc. Whereas maybe it's really a mandate to bring jobs to the countryside as promised before and for ages and ages and not actually done.

But if the USA gov does a Theresa May it's just going to be xenophobia and empty promises.

The short answer is that nearly every state allocates all of its electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote in that state. This was the reason Bush v. Gore took so long to decide--Florida had a recount (automatically triggered by how close the popular vote was), things got fucked up Florida-style and had to be worked out before they could cast all of their electoral votes which held the balance of the election. I can't remember who ended up winning that one.

By the way, this fucked up system is the reason Clinton has narrowly won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College massively.

There won't be any recounting, at least not any that will change the outcome.

i was working in minneapolis during the whole florida hanging chad thing