EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

They've said they'd appeal it. The March deadline will be moved back.

But a drop of good news. Finally. This will, at the very least, make "hard Brexit' more difficult.

That pound jump in context.

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Hah!

If the Supreme Court appeal fails, I don't think the ECJ can get involved? Can they get involved unless something was clearly against local democratic law?

(with all the bitching people do about the EHRC etc...it's not all that powerful, else ROI would not have their current ridiculous abortion laws, which were voted in democratically...)

I sensed that the consensus had shifted towards thinking that the Government would not appeal.

An appeal could take a long while and Brexiters are not keen on further delay (for obvious reasons).

So the Government will take the judgement and crack on with the legislation.

Oh, LFGSS still expensive to run then.

Need to spend moar evenings writing Go so I can move to a cheaper hosting provider (Google cloud, at least I can pay less overnight when the forum is quieter).

But will they get any legislation through parliament? The majority of MPs voted to remain.

Looking forward to Corbyn fighting a powerful 'Remain' case in Parliament. Not! :)

And he says that NOW

Austerity and other crap under his watch, nasty benefit cuts and now it's all rosy. What government was he part of again? ;)

Plus House of Lords.

Taking it to Parliament now seems like an easy way to quash the whole thing.

Yes, I reckon it will get through Parliament.

There seem to have been quite a few Remainer MPs who have talked about their difficulties in feeling that they were at odds with their Brexit constituents.

The awkward part will be Lords. But I don't think they can do that much more than send the bill back for amendments (i.e. add things like approval on a final deal etc.)

Will be interesting to see if there is an election.

The power of the Lords is derived from the Tory Party manifesto. They clearly stated that membership of the single market was a policy, so the Lords can use that to their advantage.

You imagine MPs will take into account the good of the nation against protecting their majorities?

I can't really see Parliament not voting for Article 50, from what I remember if you split the vote down into constituencies the amount that voted out was upwards of 60%. However much people complain the vote's done and I can't see it being rescinded now.

Does this impact at all on a parliamentary vote to approve the final deal, does anyone know what will actually be required to approve the final deal?

Yes. The various wise (old) heads of the House of Lords will definitely make an impact.

In some cases, yes. Very few MPs are protecting thin majorities.

Seems the government will appeal. Interesting.

Er, re Greenhell a couple of pages back...

A Conservative MP is calling for BBC 1 to restore the tradition of playing the national anthem at the end of each day’s programmes, in honour of Brexit.

Those who stay up late will know that the BBC does play the dirge-like National Anthem at close of play each day. Do they even electricity in Romford?

Yeah, but voting against will leave them open to huge attacks next time round as not being willing to represent their constituents - probably from within their parties as well as from opponents. Can't see them doing anything other than taking the path of least resistance.

Those who stay up late will know that the BBC does play the dirge-like National Anthem at close of play each day. Do they even electricity in Romford?

ha!

I'll have you know there's plenty of electricity in Romford, it's just everyone is too busy drinking and paki bashing to know how to use it.

The margin of victory in many places was very thin and the support for Brexit is fluid. Taking any position is going to be politically problematic.

The Goldsmith by-election just got a bit more important.

I would agree. And you can see the deselection threats directed at Labour MPs having an impact too (given the Corbyn wing are so apathetically Remain as to in effect be Brexit).

Those who stay up late will know that the BBC does play the dirge-like National Anthem at close of play each day. Do they even electricity in Romford?

Do you even 2016?

Sometimes elected representatives have to take positions that are unpopular. Capital punishment is a classic example.

And I think the impact of Brexit is quite clearly larger (and worse) for the majority of the population than capital punishment.

(Although capital punishment is certainly a greater moral wrong).

Maybe this will allow for a glorious new era of politicians acting like adults and discussing issues.