EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

And going beyond the specifications she was no icebreaker ;)

No black sheep posters in NL.

We have of course Wilders and his anti Muslim grievances in NL, no perfection there... xenophobia is in atm :/

I do understand how blacking up is racist at times. But to generalise all blacking up as racist is a slippery slope to political correctness madness. Surely you're bright enough to understand not all blacking (or even 'whitening up') is racist, doesn't context have to be taken into consideration?
As an example, the blacked up chimney sweep attending weddings, do you consider that racist or a mock up of a fact that chimney sweeps get black faces?

That's not really blacking up though is it? That's just painting your face to look dirty like a chimney sweep's face.

It took until this morning for someone to throw in "political correctness gone mad" (or a version of it). You know you've lost the argument when you do that.

We had a guy at work who, as part of introducing himself to someone, would say "And I'm very politically incorrect". This was his way of saying (we worked out from observation) "I'm a massive cunt and you'll hate me within minutes of meeting me".

When did you work with Pisti?

I don't get what you mean, here in east lancs, it's just a colloquial term. Generally accepted to mean that beurocrats have stopped using common sense in their decisions ranging from 'where to put your wheelie bin' to H&S.

Not according to Greenhell, but I agree and that's the point I'm making.

I don't get what you mean, here in east lancs, it's just a colloquial term. Generally accepted to mean that beurocrats have stopped using common sense in their decisions ranging from 'where to put your wheelie bin' to H&S.

It's normally used in this type of sentence "And you know what, they're not forcing her to carry the rapists child to term! It's political correctness gone mad!"

It's typically used to trivialise the view that discrimination and prejudice are wrong. It's a cliche and meaningless, and gets thrown in when the argument has otherwise been lost, very often by people who would love to be just a little bit racist/sexist/homophobic, cause a little bit of "harmless" offence, have a laugh at people because of the colour of their skin and not be frowned upon.

It's also said in conjunction with the term "common sense" which is short hand for "a view that I and my like minded peers hold that we believe should be held by everyone, even if it is a totally spurious and subjective position".

In my opinion common sense is never common and rarely sense.

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I've seen them armed with flower garlands without a care in the world for hay fever sufferers.

so they're having a pop at the hawaiians too? bastards!

You've very nearly quoted Stewart Lee word for word there, good work.

A discussion about when blacking up is acceptable in 2016. What a time to be alive.

I'll concede one point for the sake of this argument, and that's that I, nor the overwhelming majority of people on here, should probably not be deciding what is and isn't racist. More so me considering my background. I say this as I doubt many of us have experienced actual racism in any meaningful way. However, that shouldn't stop any of us from thinking twice before engaging in any sort of activity that might well be construed as offensive to people who have experienced racism in a meaningful way. Failure to do so might make you look like a bit of an entitled arse who's more interested in making a specious point than being an OK human being.

something to chew on.

Wow, you read all that from a simple throw away remark?

Ok here' the 'common sense' comment in context. My local council (Rossendale) was literally run by Billie the fish fryer and Doris the florist (names changed for anonymity). They made a £10,000 decision to import sand into an open area in the town centre to simulate a beach. Not much common sense used in that decision was there. So, according to your thinking, when the locals chit chatted and said 'not much common sense those councillors' we were inferring all of the above?

Not up here it's not.

I suspect it is, I suspect you simply don't notice or realise.

I actually take offence at your glibness. As part of a mixed race couple, I've experienced racism, xenophobia verbal and physical assaults and have been discriminated against because we're a mixed race couple, so has my wife and children.
Just because a person hasn't experienced something doesn't mean they can't have valid points.

Not that I'm saying that all Northerners are thick racists on benefits, that'd be a bit politically incorrect.

No, that was my interpretation of the use of the phrase "political correctness gone mad" having seen it used for many years. You may very well have meant something different by it, but that's the danger of using a cliche.

Really, I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing.

Just because a person hasn't experienced something doesn't mean they can't have valid points.

the validity of your points are entirely subjective, champ.

So being part of a mixed race couple (well done, by the way), gives you licence to trivialise the horrible shit that gets thrown at people with darker skin than you?

enjoy 'telling it like it is'.

Or you know my area's colloquialness better than us?