• http://www.wired.co.uk/article/starship-skype-delivery-robot-autonomous-shopping

    Driverless robots deliver food... Sounds like a service that the unscrupulous may interscept

  • Driverless robots deliver food... Sounds like a service that the unscrupulous may interscept

    How do the "self-employed" bicycle couriers at Deliveroo and the "self-employed" drivers at Uber differ? Seems the trend across the table is to use cheap and willing labour to stake out a claim in the service market and then toss the "self-employed" out..

  • And advertise to us while we travel. Sell us stuff with personalised ads and recommend placed we based on our mobile phone data.

    http://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2016/10/28/driverless-cars-may-spook-people-now-marketers-they-are-the-next-big-thing

    The future is golden. A golden calf

  • The future is golden. A golden calf

    And a endless number of scripts for Black Mirror...

  • AI thread.

  • AI thread.

    SDCs are an application of robotics although really more properly machine learning with a focus on computer vision, pattern recognition, partially observable Markov decision processes, ... ANNs are, of course, used a lot.. Infrastructure to vehicle communication too will probably play a significant role.. There are so many special issues that can't be "programmed".. for example how to respond in an emergency, stop for the police etc..
    See The Police Could Be Controlling Your Self-Driving Car (Rand Corp)

  • "AI thread." was simply an edit as I moved the original post to the AI thread because I posted it to the wrong thread in the first instance.

  • AI thread.

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    AI thread

  • Again AI/robocar thread overlap. (Need an algorithm to assess in which thread to post this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/31/paul-mason-driverless-cars-uber-artificial-intelligence-unemployment

    Instead, we should begin by recognising that, as machines plus artificial intelligence begin to replace human beings, the entire social, political and moral dilemma for humanity becomes a question of systems.

  • New series of Humans touches on this removal of labour with one of the humans being sacked and replaced by a bot as well as a young human apprentice being trained up by a bot.

    The Making a Human thing also touched on automated shipping loaders which removed (or perhaps moved) the need for human operators. I've seen similar robot forklift drivers operating in Aussie wineries. They're laser-guided and will stop if you get in their way, etc. They are also able to stack wine higher than human operators as they're more precise so there's less tipping risk, they dock themselves for charging and they can work 24/7. Pretty funky... unless you were a forklift operator...

  • AI thread

    Not familiar with an AI thread..

  • You'd been just about passing the Turing test up until this blatant attempt at misdirection.

  • New series of Humans touches on this removal of labour with one of the humans being sacked and replaced by a bot as well as a young human apprentice being trained up by a bot.

    While many of the discussions go back to the second half of the 20th century these issues, as you well know, have been explored since time immemorial and are found in many antique texts. Robots are really a kind of Golem-- stories about which date to early Judaism. In the Talmud Adam was initially created as a golem-- when his dust was "kneaded into a shapeless husk". Technology too is a reoccuring theme in the the Torah. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about technology: They were weathly through the technology of agriculture and had lost the humanity of raising animals (see also Cain and Abel where Cain, the crop farmer, kills Abel, the shepard).
    In the classic Golem of Prague narrative, like dystopic visions of robots, the being became increasingly uncontrollable and destructive...

  • hippy in reply to @EdwardZ

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  • I suspect that this is because you're banned from Miscellaneous and Meaningless. That goes back to when you used to post in the 'In the news' thread. You could try to appeal to Velocio to lift the ban and not get up people's noses in there this time. :)

  • I suspect that this is because you're banned from Miscellaneous and Meaningless. That goes back to when you used to post in the 'In the news' thread.

    All that has really changed is that the positions I rejected and spoke up for have since become part of the public debatte resulting in the suspension this year of more than 50 members of the Labour party-- a crisis that continues to fester.

  • Ford's self-driving cars will run QNX : http://www.wired.co.uk/article/blackberry-ford-driverless-car-software
    -- this is kind of interesting since both NVIDIA's and MobilEye's platforms are Ubuntu (Linux).

    edit: Apparently the QNX CAR™ application platform targets the NVIDIA Tegra platform (such as Drive-PX) and apparently some of the infotainment systems using QNX (for example Audi's) use NVIDIA Tegra SoCs (looks mainly like K1s) .

  • Seeing that Qualcomm is buying NXP-- NXP in turn bought Freescale (which started off as a Motorola division and) last year (and the year previous set their sights on the SDCs with Chinese Neusoft, maker of an ADAS solution, and Green Hills Software maker of RTOS -- it might be interesting to see how the drive platforms develop. Right now its mainly MobilEye and NVIDIA on the self-drive front. The auto industry is these days dominated by NXP, Renesas (Japan, merger from NEC with a joint venture of Hitachi and Mitsubishi) and Infinion (Germany, fork from Siemens) with STM Micro (Italy/France, ex SGS-Thomson) and Bosch (Germany) in the lead pack. SDC is, however, a different game and we are on the brink of a lot of distruption.. that is right now.. That is why Intel is joining in with MobilEye.. and ..

  • Good article but not 100% depth researched.. Itseez, for example, started off as an offshoot of Intel.. OpenCV started at Intel's Nizhny Novgorod lab. The team in Russia developed into Itseez.. It's founders (Alexander Bovyrin, Victor Erukhimov, Sergey Molinov) all worked for Intel on the library.. Willow Garage (Menlo Park), especially Brian Gerkey, picked it up.. and the quality grew. OpenCV is quite popular and hands-down the most popular computer vision platform-- it's my chosen platform. More interesting was the acquisition of RealSense (an Israeli start-up whose founder is currently doing work on 3D Deep Learning). Where NVIDIA has their stength is the use of CUDA for "Deep Learning" training. NVIDIA created CUDA and is clearly responsible for the rebirth of ANNs-- putting ANNs on GPUs was the trick. They own the territory. Distruption shall come in the short term from the domain of low power inference-- running the networks (which is what is on the cars). Right now NVIDIA with their SoCs is quite dominant but there are a number of custom ASIC solutions in the wings-- Google, for example, is using their own "TPU" in some applications. Here, I can imagine Qualcomm could be a major player.. their GPUs support OpenCL.. OpenCL is the alternative to CUDA but right now, at least, the support in OpenCV and most of the DL frameworks is not really up to grade.. while NVIDIA has done a lot of great work with CuDNN and RT-Tensor (GPU Inference Engine) ...

  • Blow this morning to self-powered and electric vehicles-- a big blue collar wrench has been thrown into the transmission. Looks like EPA and climate goals may well set to be abandoned in the US. The $7500 EV tax credit for electric cars is set to go bye bye.. Fuel usage demands (so-called MPG standards) are set too to be thrown to the wayside.. SDCs still have a chance but petrol looks (at least this morning) increasingly more likely.. The motor behind electric in the US was the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards. Throw them out and relax polution means investments in electric look increasingly less likely... With chances of a big red paypack to big oil and bring a hand full of jobs to Indiana perhaps the Hummer can make its comeback..

  • Just seen a meme about self driving cars- basic premise: people die while driving, people will continue to die while in cars therefore there will be instances of people dying en route with the car still delivering them to their location.

    Would be a bit weird having the body of one of your colleagues delivered to the office or a relative parked up dead outside at a family gathering...

  • Better that than having a dead driver plowing into a crowd of people or into the path of another car.

    Still kinda funny though in a dark humour kinda way.

    #everythingisfunnysolongasithappenstosomeoneelse

  • It must already happen to a certain extent with taxis/buses/trains/etc

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