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I suspect they lied.
Because you were interviewing them.
In person, on-record... who wants to say they jump the lights and are fine with it?
In reality, every road user breaks the law at times and this is the norm not the exception. From speeding vehicles, to advance stop lines, to jumping lights, to signalling badly, to hogging a middle lane, to using a mobile device. The list is endless.
The only thing that matters: Was it safe?
If the answer is yes, that's all that matters.
Which means if the motorway is cruising at 90mph, being the one car below 70mph isn't safe. It's safer to break the law.
So long as it's safe... I take the law as guidance. Because frankly going on a green light isn't going to be enough to keep me alive if it wasn't safe. I go when it's safe, the rest is for people to bicker about.
Velocio-
Yes I agree. My questionnaire data, which was anonymous, revealed that they are happy to 'sometimes' jump red lights. And as you say, there is nothing wrong with that, as long as it was safe, both subjectively and objectively.
Here is a quote, one of many, from an interview where 'collective responsibility' was raised.
"You have to have an acceptance that collectively we have to stick to acceptable norms if we want to, as a group, collective group of transport users, be accepted and acknowledged and kind of respected by everyone else, so yeah, there has to be collective responsibility."
drewtheshrew
I interviewed 12 people, all from various Facebook cycling groups, of varied demographic.