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• #77
if this couldn't stop Britain bombing Iraq, what will ^ that achieve, where there isn't actually an agenda?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/15/iraq-war-mass-protest
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• #78
organised, peaceful protest is far from futile. anonymous protest certainly is. it's yelling at the sea.
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• #79
that Hypernormalisation docu made an interesting point about the Occupy movement - eventually because there was no real hierarchy and leadership, they couldn't agree on the changes they wanted to bring about.
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• #80
a bit like critical mass then.
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• #81
Careful now! Don't tar CM with the Anonymous brush. CM really is just a bike ride these days (maybe you haven't been in a while / ever?). Where's the ambiguity?
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• #82
my point was more about the fact that CM has no discernable agenda or leadership, albeit by design.
back in your box.
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• #83
What time do we torch the place?
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• #84
'under the mask there is....
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A super serious totally awesome guy who is totally serious about being all anarchist and stuff and definitely not a fedora wearing neckbeard (it's a bowler hat and a goatee, damn it.)'
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• #85
If I was organising an event like this I would put the meet up time at 12noon and then the finish time at 9pm. That would enable people from outside London to get buses and trains home easily. The meet up time for most major demonstrations in London is usually 12noon with a start off time of usually 1pm.
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• #86
Starting at 6 means less anarchy during the rush hour.
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• #87
By the way the Sun newspaper have done a good article on this event, read this: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1998408/million-mask-march/ It is good that the national media is taking an interest in this protest. Also I thought that I would receive a more positive response to this thread topic as there are now radical cyclist groups like critical mass in many cities. And by the way it would be good to have a pedal powered sound system at this event.
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• #88
Don't buy The Sun (or give them your clicks).
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• #89
radical cyclist groups
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• #90
Some occupations were grass-roots and specific. Even the ones that weren't helped build the mainstream language of opposition; the one percent etc. Fuckit some occupations actually worked.
Maybe aligning with Anonymous helps (isolated? web-reliant?) people to find a voice if they're not engaged with their regonal issues. Maybe it's better than nothing.
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• #91
By the way here is the Facebook page for this event again: https://www.facebook.com/events/485894658146587/ As you can see the numbers are really low at 19,000. But that is because very few people know that this event is going to take place. Unlike the big left parties like the SWP and its front organisations like Peoples Assembly, Anonymous does not have vast amounts of money to pay for hundreds of thousands of leaflets and posters to advertise its events. If it did then I think there would be around at least a quarter of a million people on the streets for the November the 5th million mask march event.
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• #92
If only anonymous had access to some vast, decentralised system of information exchange which the majority of people had easy access to on multiple devices with which they could communicate the details of this event- then it would doubtless have millions going!
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• #93
The trouble with marching along Whitehall and protesting outside Downing St and Parliament is that it gets done so regularly that nobody even bothers to ask what the protest of the day is about. In the last few months we've had pro and anti abortion, pro and anti assisted dying (on the same day), Black Lives Matter, Stop the War, something about rainforests, something about the NHS, something about children in care/Brexiteers/Remainers/Marine A/Jo Cox/Teachers/Hunting with Dogs/Black Cabs against Uber...
We even had Greek people protesting about the stance of the Greek government about something or other but they didn't want to protest at the Greek embassy because they knew it wouldn't get in the paper.
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In the last few months we've had pro and anti abortion, pro and anti assisted dying (on the same day), Black Lives Matter, Stop the War, something about rainforests, something about the NHS, something about children in care/Brexiteers/Remainers/Marine A/Jo Cox/Teachers/Hunting with Dogs/Black Cabs against Uber...
EVERYTHlNG IS WRONG
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• #95
What you need is an attractive young female actor and then the Guardian is all over it.
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• #96
Are Polish people welcome to come along @Goldsword ?
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• #97
Please delete your link
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• #98
Can you guarantee a finishing time of 9 pm ?
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• #99
By the way unfortunately very heavy rain for around three hours before last years event resulted in a much lower turnout than expected. But the previous year in 2014 at least 4,000 people attended the event. The 9pm finishing time is a time imposed on this event by the police. This event will go on for as long as people want to protest like it does every year which is usually until midnight. There is loads of more information on the Facebook event page here: https://www.facebook.com/events/485894658146587/ Basically anyone is invited who is pissed off with Tory government polices like austerity cuts, privatisation of public services, benefit sanctions etc.
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• #100
What about anonymous tories?
Also "We have seen the abuses and malpractice of this government, and governments before it, we have seen the encroaching destruction of many civil liberties we hold dear, we have seen the pushes to make the internet yet another part of the surveillance state, we have seen the government's disregard for migrants, for the poor, the elderly and the Disabled, we have seen the capital, profit and greed of the few put before the well-being of the many and we say enough is enough."
Does this mean people are also protesting against all previous UK governments, including the whigs, labour and the lib dems? When will it all end?
Here is the latest youtube video for this event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjwQaf5VgKM
Remember meet at Trafalgar Square at 6pm, Saturday the 5th of November.