• Comparing bikes is hard. Even the weather can make the feeling different of course. Tires, saddle, handlebar, brake levers. Like a plectrum which can make a guitar sound totally different. Anyway, I'm not going to question your opinion, but which Dutch frames did you ride?

  • Hey guys, at the end of the day there just bikes perhaps you both should keep and ride them, I myself own an 80's gazelle so know a little about how it feels to ride and what its like, Both the 600 and Dura are great groupsets (one looks much nicer in my opinion) but neither where in the minds when this bike was designed but I must say you both chose well anyhow, I'm sure someone would pay more than your both asking so maybe both bikes under priced in the end, as for top Italian frames and their makers its not just about style and looks' its their life, dedication and passion which produce these wonderful machines and as much as I love my Gazelle it doesn't even come close......

  • You do compare a small factory in The Netherlands (small and with great craftsmanship in 1970s), with small custom frame builders in Italy. You should compare small custom frame builders in Italy with the same group in The Netherlands.

    Also you talk about (late) 1980s Gazelle. If I had to pick a bike from late 1980s/1990s I wouldn't choose a Gazelle (still a 'best buy' probably!) to be honest. I consider Champion Mondials from 1970s better bikes (and very good compared to bikes from the same era). But also in the 1970s there where better (ok ok, also personal preference) Dutch options then Gazelle.

    What about those famous and great British TI-Raleigh 753 team bikes (Zoetemelk, Raas etc.), how do they compare with Italian bikes from the same era?

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