• @croft, @mattired, @Greenbank,
    when you jump a red you know it's illegal. I try to be courteous about it (if a pedestrian is crossing I'll slow and let them continue on), but I understand the police will pull me over for it. But I'm okay with that.

    I don't know why the various proponents of the other ways of jumping a red light feel the need to try to weasel out of it's illegality. It is illegal. Come to terms with that fact and then ride your bike through a red light instead of pushing/wheeling/walking it through...

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