• Now, now children. They are both lovely bikes. A bike is worth, ultimately, what someone will pay for it, if a seller doesn't agree, then keep the bike. Anyone else's opinion on value is just that, an opinion, and irrelevant unless they are buying. I have a very nice aa special frame, early 90's I reckon. Lovely, but not Italian.( That should put the cat amongst the pigeons!)

  • Dutch handmade bikes are generally speaking from the same quality as handmade Italian steel. Pretty often they are even better. Italian bikes and parts have the shine, but in Holland function comes first and then the looks. In Italy it is the other way around sometimes unfortunately. Of course, there are very very nice and good Italian works of art, don't get me wrong here. Dutch steel is underrated in price, while Italian steel is overrated quite some times. It's also a matter of culture. Calvinism (decent, simple, clean) versus Catholicism (great looks)? :)

    Amen.

    GLWS.

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