In the news

arf. probably.

i was referring to the boer war.

That made me smile, tx :)

I've heard several people say that racism is over. So I don't think you even can be racist now, you're just saying it how it is.

common sense, innit.

FIFA sorted racism out a couple of weeks ago

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/25/fifa-anti-racism-task-force-russia-2018-world-cup

We can all move on now and feel more secure in our banana throwing.

Velocio is going to name and shame all forumengers riding foreign bikes.

What about foreigners riding UK made bieks?

Or bicycles kitted out with mostly UK made components?

;)

Miscegenation, we'll sort that out amongst ourselves. No need for the authorities to get involved.

It isn't inherently racist to want to regulate immigration. What is racist is to imply that the increasing economic disparity between the lowest earners and the highest, the strain on the NHS, and the shortfall in affordable housing, is somehow a byproduct of immigration.
It's being used to distract people from the specific austerity measures that even George Osbourne now admits were deliberately implemented to appease the financial industry and big business.

As British citizens we want access to the single market so want the ability to ride forrun bikes. It's the forruns coming here and riding British bikes so there's a shortage causing British people to have to use single occupancy cars that creates the problem. I've no issue with exports of British Bikes or British people riding forrun bikes in forrun places either.

It's the forruns coming here and riding British bikes

You can have my Mercian when you pry it from my cold, dead clipped-in feet.

What size frame?

What retention system you using?

Bastards! I'll get no succor around here!

*adopts mockney accent

It isn't inherently racist to want to regulate immigration.

That's correct. But, on the flipside, at some point a society has to just accept immigrants as part of itself too.

The issue I have with regulation it can results in fuck all rights. See the AUS system. You can be there for decades, but if you have no job you quickly you get kicked out.

We already know EU immigrants pay in the pot, and claim fewer unemployment benefits than natives. And the racist bingo cards of muslims/no english skills also don't fly. But we have been a convenient pissing pole.

If the discussion of regulation isn't had with a celebration/acceptance too then the xenophobia/racism will never be far away. And the regulation crowd rarely goes together with the celebration crowd (bar some businesses who want diversity and celebrate it)

Fair points.

succor

"Succour"

Filthy forrin spelling.

It isn't inherently racist to want to regulate immigration

But it's a pretty reliable barometer

Check with George Smith,
(the birth name of self-styled Iain Duncan Smith),
his maternal great-grandmother was Japanese.
He should have the inside line on how much forrin is allowed.

Not really. Do you actually want to give anybody who wants it the right to come and live here?
The UK isn't some sort of unfettered wilderness ripe for a modern day Manifest Destiny.

Equally, it isn't swamped with millions of eastern Europeans claiming benefits.

The reality is somewhere in between, where, due to an ageing population, immigration is needed to ensure the country has the workers it requires to function in the future. But no politician seems brave enough to make that point, due to the poisonous atmosphere this current shower of bastards (and I'm including all political parties in this) have created.

Anyway, historically this country has benefitted enormously from immigration and the vast majority of 'native' people are descended from immigrants of some ilk.

You could equally argue that, until very recently, merely suggesting that immigration needs some sort of regulation gets you labelled as racist.

Just because the UK isn't swamped with millions of eastern Europeans claiming benefits, as you put it, that isn't an argument for complete freedom of movement. If we're going to discuss this in black and white terms then we're not going to get anywhere.

Do you actually want to give anybody who wants it the right to come and live here?

Sorry, did I say that? I must have touched a raw nerve somewhere...

You suggested that a desire to regulate immigration more often than not masks a racist agenda. I do not agree with that. It can do but it's nowhere near implicit.

In some ways, especially with regard to the EU, immigration is actually quite exploitative.