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  • Football as harmless fun? It's big business my friend. I knew kids who bet their whole life on it, and when it didn't work out they had nothing to fall back on.

    Anyway, careers officers doing the rounds is normal, and it doesn't matter one jot if they're from the British Army or the Leprosy Mission: kids are either going to be into it or they're not. The guys at school who ended up in the army were the ones who always wanted to join the army. I don't fundamentally disagree with you, I just think you're selling kids short - the ones who think about their future are more savvy than you make out.

    Anyway, it's not for you and me to judge, is it? We should ask someone who's been in the army what they think about it.

  • Football as harmless fun? It's big business my friend. I knew kids who bet their whole life on it, and when it didn't work out they had nothing to fall back on.

    That's a failure of parenting.

  • Maybe being keen to join the army is failure of parenting too?

    Actually, I'm confused - what's the point?

    In any case, those guys' parents may very well have been pushing them to get their qualifications in case it went tits up, and they just didn't listen... maybe.

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