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and @negaatio I found that "leather mtb saddle" was the best search string
Cf here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Italy-2015-new-full-carbon-fiber-mountain-road-seat-saddle-bike-saddle-seat-saddle-bicycle-accessories/32722032194.html
and normal
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-new-fashion-hollow-titanium-rail-breathable-leather-EVA-sponge-racing-road-bike-saddle/32602485282.html
branwen
@psee
Anyone know a cheap clone of the SMP saddle?