'ThINk' Road Safety institution's video is divisive

take care out there folks,

respect bigger vehicles on the road than our own humble effort of momentum;

Link?

This one I think....Saw it last night. Nice rams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lBvN80JaQ

https://twitter.com/THINKgovuk/status/780285803125551104

TBH so, so, many people I see in this city who don't seem to have a fucking clue about going up the inside of left turning HGVs, I can't get too mad about this.

Have to agree.

If I was to have a gripe it would be questioning why this is released just as the most prone to this kind of move start hibernating from cycling for the winter. If you're going to put this type of thing out it should be either in January for the new dawn of resolutionists or spring when the fair weather brigade emerge from their steel tubed slumber.

The footage is short, but in the part we see that lorry passes a cyclist on a narrow road without much room and then turns left across him. The lorry comes from behind and passes the cyclist, so should have waited instead of part overtaking and turning.

It's just victim blaming shit.

Don't ride a bike, it's dangerous, you'll get sliced, bashed, butted, crushed, kaplunked (hilarious!) by an HGV.

They have traced where the road is, it's Monier Road in Bow, a two way road, so the HGV was overtaking but then it jump cuts to different relative positions and speed. Makes no sense.

Nice use of cartoon violence. Top marks all round.

First shot looks like he's riding up the inside, but it is a bit ambiguous.

I concede it could look victim blamey. Better would have been if they clearly showed the cyclist undertaking.

Lorry driver is not signalling at the time they are passing/being passed by the guy on a bike.

Despicable nonsense.

I'm not sure it's as bad as I thought from the description and indignation.

To me it clearly shows a daft bicyclist accelerating up the inside of a left indicating lorry.

Hopefully they'll now follow it up with another one telling lorry drivers to look in their mirrors.

What video are you watching? In that one ^^^^ it is indicating all the time.

Well the one I watched earlier today had a shot of a lorry passing a cycle, no signal light flashing. @Hefty so no, the lorry's indicators are not working all the time.

Yep, same film. 26 seconds or thereabouts.

That's it, but I see a functioning indicator:

Orange blinky light on, then off:

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I copied this from one of the comments on YouTube..

I have just sent the following complaint to the Department of Transport and the Advertising Standards Authority (linking this video): ... After carefully analysing this video, I urge you to withdraw it, as it encourages unlawful and dangerous behaviour of motorists. Please let me describe in detail what I mean by that. In the video a cyclist collides with a left turning HGV. As only a short sequence of what precedes the left turn is being shown, it is unclear what led to this situation in the first place. Did the HGV just overtake the cyclist, or did the cyclist ride into the gap between the curb and the HGV? The video clearly allows for both interpretations, where the first one would clearly be in violation of rules 167(1, 6, and 9) and 182. But let me take the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is not what led to the situation, and it was the cyclists who foolishly moved into the gap. First, in the video the HGV only starts signalling once it makes the turn, which is again in violation with rule 182, which requires left turning vehicles to “give a left-turn signal well before you turn left”. Second, throughout the scene, the cyclist should be visible in either the class IV wide angle rear view mirror, or the class V side close proximity mirror of the HGV. Both are required by law, and are visibly installed on the HGV. If correctly installed, the first creates a field of vision of at least 4.5m wide to the left of the vehicle and starting right behind the cabin. The latter creates a field of vision right next to the cabin of at least 2m width. This means, that a driver who in line with rule 182 uses the mirrors before the turn, and considers that “cyclists, motorcyclists and other road users in particular may be hidden from your view” should have realised that there was a cyclist, and slowed down and/or abandoned the left turn. What we rather see, is an HGV driver making a dangerously fast left turn without checking the mirrors. The speed of the turn makes it even more irresponsible, as the driver would not be able to stop in time for pedestrians who might be crossing the road it turns into who, if they have started to cross before the HGV makes the turn, have priority (rule 170). So, irrespective of what led to the critical situation, the ad is socially irresponsible and likely to condone or encourage behaviour which violates the highway code and is prejudicial to health and safety. I therefore urge you to stop screening this ad.

tl;dr

Still did died tho.

a real life example, especially since there's a cycle lane too;

https://twitter.com/AsEasyAsRiding/status/780840812238270464

#17 good comments

What I don't like is the ongoing violence in the video

why do we have to continually endure this behaviour in our communities?

yup, you've sussed that it's all NICE in a non-nice sense!

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Rule 167

DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
•approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road

I know that some cyclists don't know not to go up the inside of a vehicle that could turn, but this advert doesn't show that.

It shows a driver breaking the highway code and then avoids putting any of the blame on that driver. Victim blaming and all round shitebaggery.

If you didn't know any better and took any guidance from cycle lanes and advance stop boxes painted on the road you would assume that is what cyclists are meant to do.

Case in point...

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