NJS Keirin Presto 54.5 x 56cm track frames in excellent condition

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Tijs in reply to @Turkish

won't a steep seattube actually put the saddle closer to the handlebars, effectively making it smaller*

*What I meant is shorter actually. Shorter toptube. So 'smaller' bicycle. Poor phrasing on my part.

But the point remains. Ed says the steep seattube makes the bike feel longer (56cm toptube instead of 54.5cm), but wouldn't it make it feel shorter? Like you said (but in reverse):

Slackening the seattube and keeping everything else the same would yield a longer top tube

With identical toptube lengths, surely the one with the steep seattube (blue) will feel shorter? Because the seat is positioned closer to the headtube.

Edit (re below): Ah, right. I wasn't ~~taking into account~~ understanding keeping the saddle at the same position relative to the bottom bracket (which I guess is a perquisite for a good bike fit), like @Turkish said. In that case it makes sense.

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edscoble in reply to @Tijs

You got it right, I found a better picture (ignore the one on the right) which show what happen when you want to ride with the saddle in the same position;

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