• Well in that case you must be utterly deranged. There was one person in that case who was committing the criminal offence of assault, if not battery, and it was the driver. She was the one perpetrating the crime, Vine was the victim of a crime. Making up specious bollocks about 'motor dependence' and making irrelevant references to the victim's professional status doesn't alter that fact. It doesn't matter what her reasons were for flying off the handle. It doesn't matter who or what he is. What matters is that she assaulted him.

  • I didn't claim any of what you imply I claimed. In fact, I explicitly said that she was in the wrong there. Of course it matters what her reasons were for flying off the handle. If you never investigate that, you end up forever treating the symptoms and not the causes.

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