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• #52
sea water is just salt and water, it isn't some miraculous chemical soup*
as we all should know, salt is dissolved by water, more so by hot water, so why wouldn't a shower work to rinse the sea out*unless you are swimming in a non blue flagged beach and have been bumping into dogs / human eggs and general effluent
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• #53
Just my experience.
The times I've used shampoo the least frequently have been when surfing / diving. It quickly became a matted sticky mess. Water didn't change that.
That said I probably didn't have access to a decent quantity of properly hot water, so maybe that plus short hair would have made a difference.
Also I don't agree that sea water is just salt + water. It totally depends where you are but sand, shit, ground plastic and plant matter are generally also present.
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• #54
Didn't use shampoo (or "hair products) for over 10 years when I was younger, simply rinsed with water twice a day. I've dry hair so no issues with it looking greasy.
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• #55
^^ actually you're right
i forgot that all manner of fish poo and pee in the water
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• #56
Nah, sea water smells of the sea. Plankton smells.
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• #57
Until the 1950s when Big Shampoo came along people would wash their hair using natural recipes. For example: take a few handfuls of sea salt, a pinch of turmeric, some crushed Turkish almonds and mix them to a paste. Bring to a rolling boil in half a pint of cider vinegar and simmer for two to three days. Allow to cool and add a half teaspoon of French Mustard. Apply the resulting paste to your scalp, massaging deep in to the roots. Cover the scalp in a muslin cloth, tight enough to keep it in place but loose enough to allow your follicles to breath. In the morning, remove the cloth and use a pair of pinking shears to hack away at the fetid mess. Finish the job with proprietary hair clippers. Allow your hair to regrow naturally and apply Vosene.
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• #58
one didn't need a conditioner back in the good old days
that ^ would bring out a shine on even the most stubborn dull lifeless hair< insert video of person swinging their head left to right, glorious hair swooshing in beautiful slo-mo >
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• #59
I'm just bitter because any shampoo I might need these days could be applied with an eye dropper.
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• #60
I can understand not using shampoo but not using deodorant is just plain mental... don't understand that whatsoever!
I actually don't use deodorant at all, but then I'm just really not a sweaty person at all (which might explain why I can't handle hot weather), and shower every day, never wear the same tshirt twice without washing etc.
Have asked honest friends and no one says I smell.
(the bit about not wiping my arse was a lie btw)
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• #61
The global shampoo market is expected to reach an estimated value of $25.73 billion by 2019.Here's how it goes. In olden days dirty job = dirty hair so some smart dude comes up with a shampoo that smells like toilet cleaner eg Vosene (showing my age). Then the body products industry in it's infancy decides that if we can be persuaded to wash our hair every week they will sell shedloads of lovely smelling shampoo, Cue advertising etc. Then we discover that not washing hair for a couple of days produces greasy hair! Result for the shampoo makers!!!!! - wash hair more often. Only that strips all of the oil and leaves dry hair. Wahey - conditioner - daily!. Then when you think that's it all sewn up - combined shampoo and conditioner - a product that takes oil out and puts oil back - all at the same time - every day. Jeez - you wouldn't do this to your dog! Then there's toothpaste, bionic yoghurt, under-arm, shower-gel, vitamins, eye drops, the list is endless....and rubbish! It's all in the name - sham and poo.
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• #62
.... combined shampoo and conditioner - a product that takes dirty oil out and puts clean oil back - all at the same time ...............
Why doesn't this exist for bike chain?
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• #63
I stopped cleaning my bike chain ten years ago. It takes a couple of weeks for the bike to get used to it and start producing it's own natural degreasers but it's worth it.
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• #64
i use the accumulated grease from my hair to oil my chain and using the bike makes me hot and greasy providing the grease
it's one of those perfect circular chinese synchronicity things, yung and yong ?
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• #65
Do you use Embankment? There's always a puddle of oil at the junction with Southwark Bridge lights. Could be you?
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• #66
Todays posts have had me laughing, cheers folks. Dunno how true it is I was once told shampoo sales rocketed further after a marketing whizz added the words "rinse & repeat" to the packaging blurb.
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• #67
Just to add one more bit to this. A couple of decades ago there was a small change to the usage instructions suggesting if your hair was particularly dirty you should reapply shampoo for a second wash. Sales boomed.
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• #68
How exactly does one gauge the dirtiness of ones hair? Filthometer?
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• #69
Well if you can't tell, it's probably best to wash it again.
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• #70
i occasionally use a solution of sodium bicarbonate when my hair gets actually dirty, otherwise just leave it and brush it and the greasiness calms down once you stop ruining yourself with shampoo.
Mix 2 tablespoons of bicarb with 500ml water (ideally soft water, or boil it a few times before mixing the bicarb in if you have hard water). A bit of a squirt of that on wet hair does much the same as shampoo and does shift grease. A 1:5 mix of white vinegar in water has a similar effect to condition according to some folk.
I never use antiperspirants and occasionally use a lush powder called "the greench" if things get wiffy in wiffy prone areas.
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• #71
theres an article today on the beeb home page about the clothes you wear and body odour
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• #72
surprisingly interesting!
I notice I only pong if it's nervous sweat, as opposed to exercise or too-hot sweat. Which is always marvellous for those scenarios - interviews, presentations...
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• #73
I did a year with no shampoo with long hair (not like waist length, but mid shoulder blade length I guess?) and it was grand, just wash with water and you're away, your scalp will take a wee while to adjust to its new shampoo-less regime.
For a light cleanse for the hair without using anything that lathers apple cider vinegar is magic.
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• #74
Cool, yeah that's how long my hair is.
I think, though, that my dead straight hair just looks crap with its 'natural oils' while any kind of natural wave or curl looks great. Although I try to only lather near my scalp to stop the ends getting dry. Well, this thread has prompted me to at least attempt to use less of the sudsy stuff. -
• #75
With pool swimming and gym showerring the chlorine in the water probably does as much as shampoo any way.
Urgh, it makes your skin feel so horrible I just want to wash it off, needs a proper soap/shower gel attack. Also - gym showers have chlorine in them?!
Asides from the sea I can well believe this.
With pool swimming and gym showerring the chlorine in the water probably does as much as shampoo any way.