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  • I'm fine with small wheels, I'm taking it for what it is; a machine just for the mistostretto(not too fast curves).
    When I said handling the front I meant the behaviour of the forecarriage due to that kind of system of not forks, similar to Bimota, which I hope is responsive enough at that moment that just follow the front brake release while entering the corner.

  • Seriously - you need to be an optimist to get involved with that dragster. My mates had a full engine rebuild under warranty less than 3 months from new, it was only a few weeks after that it went in the skip. For the occasional, sunny day it might be fun but unreliable bikes are a misery, especially if parts are rare and hard to find.

    Totally agree with the sentiments on two strokes though. Airhead - keep the TZR, I absolutely love the gen 1s, arguably the simplest and best of the lot. Also probably worth a bit more every year you hang on to it now.

  • I have to disagree with you.

    Having ridden a few gsxr 6 and 75 and 1000 back to back and a few of the k series and they got easier to ride, out of the box, as they became more modern. But to me there were never that great unless the suspension was properly set up... Engine wise a well set up 1000 will run rings around a well set up 750. By well set up I mean balance power through the rev range not all top end.

  • Totally agree with the sentiments on two strokes though. Airhead - keep the TZR, I absolutely love the gen 1s, arguably the simplest and best of the lot. Also probably worth a bit more every year you hang on to it now.

    He is right.

  • Problem is I've been keeping it SORN on the street and I've not had a tug for years, but my r80, also SORN on the street just picked up a wheel clamp and it's expensive. So my option is mot and tax and insure 4 bikes or break them to pieces to get them in my house or rent a garage to store 3 bikes I don't use! I totally agree with the sentiment and I've been hanging on knowing what a great bike it is but sometimes you have to know when to hold 'em, when to fold 'em and when to walk away :)

  • I am already thinking mot though!

  • And it might end up in the living room. Stop encouraging me to fuck my shit up!!

  • The thing is that there are different review about this bike, quite a few are just positive, and the ones that say that the engine brake down easy never say what it was the problem... Piston/cilinder? Rod knock? Bearings?

  • Broken piston rings was always popular with the italjets. Of course it would ruin the piston and score the bores, potentially contaminate the crank case. Let's face it, if the front suspension was a great idea we would have seen a lot more of them by now, even bmw have dropped the tele front end because of the effect it has on cornering. Normal forks do the job well enough.

    Most of the customers for this kind of scooter would be riding a 300/500cc 4 stroke now.

  • Then the only choice left is something like this: https://www.gumtree.com/p/yamaha-motorbikes/yamaha-r6-2000-excellent-condition-/1184952466
    A cheap r6 or a cbr that I can leave on the street in the night without too many worries, I have a back garden but at the moment only a scooter or a very light motorbike can go in it, but I can't find or think of any of these that really attracts me.

    What about thist r6? At least if I decide to kill myself with this one no risk of failure!

  • The 1000s are all absurdly grunty. I've had k3, k5 and k6 Thous. The k3 was probably the sweetest handling though had been very well set up before I bought it. The k5 and up models are smaller, have much better legroom and another 15+ hp with absurd midrange.

    I've only tracked them a couple of times but I doubt I'd be much slower on the 750. Thousands are just fucking knackering to ride...fun but wear you out really quick.

  • Oh Marco - my sis had that exact model R6. Really nice bike.

  • For that money it is very tempting... But if go for a number 6 I would like reversed fork and a more sharp shape...

  • Have you had a look at the motorcycle giant website, they're based in Shepherd's Bush and have loads of different bikes which suit the city.

    If you want a 180 with sports styling they have a Gilera dna180. Also a naked trellis frame tzr250, called an riz 250. They have a 2001 r6 too. Nice people to deal with, they love bikes.

  • That r1z is dead cool - not sure I like the cross over spannies but that would be a great laugh.

  • Yup, I'm tempted because I have a massive parts stash. Must not buy......

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  • motorcycle giant

    I went there to have a look around. Nice guys, decent range of bikes but worth noting you won't be able to take the bikes out for a proper test ride. Definitely the type of place that's worth calling in the day time to have a chat.

    Does anyone here use tinted visors? And more to the point what percentage of tint / light level do they use?

    I'm having a look at some and am curious on a practical level as to how dark / light is useful.

    I know there are lots of debates around the legality, but as I said I'm wondering what is a useful level for a day like today?

  • I run tinted. Not really out of choice though. I got crazy light sensitive eyes so need it. It's a massive pain in the arse as I either have to run prescription shades or glasses to see, so have to carry both near enough all the time at the moment. So tinted really helps as I only have to carry glasses.
    I had a word with a couple of coppers at a petrol station and they 'umm' and 'ahh'd' the subject. It's not actually legal, but they get why people do, but also know people use them for more nefarious reasons.
    They basically just said...use discretion and don't be a wanker.

  • I have a full tint Shoei visor which i use almost permanently for the commute between May & September.

    It's perfectly fine to use in daylight hours, even when it's fully cloudy.

    I've also never been stopped or given a second look by police.

  • Tinted visor user here.

    I have the darkest tint it was possible to get for my agv lid.

    I never carry a clear visor with me do if I'm out after dark I keep it upfield slow riding and put it down on lit motorway. Dunno what I'd do for fast riding on unlit roads, it's never come up.

    I actually find it makes things clearer at night, removes a lot of glare that I get from streetlights and car headlights etc. Doubt the fuzz would see it that way...

  • The trite answer would be similar or slightly lighter tint to a pair of sunglasses you would feel comfortable wearing. It's quite subjective I would think. Personally I can't handle visors that are too dark, in any conditions. I have not tried iridium tint visors so can't speak about them.
    Alternative is a helmet with a built in tinted slide down visor.

  • tinted here - shop were at pains to state they sold it to me for track use only....

    never been stopped, never been looked at funny by the Plod

    Forget about it November onwards, fogs and its too dark - my clear visor has a pinlock

  • +1 for pinlocks

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