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  • remind me again why owen smith is worthy of any commendations?

    Why they aren't reserving their vitriol for the Tory government which is slowly fucking over our country I don't know.

    if the PLP and the NEC spent as much time opposing this government as they did sifting through member's tweets and facebook posts, maybe we'd have an effective opposition. They brought this fight.

  • The two aren't really contradictory.

    Possibly on the 3 June Corbyn was talking about a positive labour case to stay in the EU on the basis of workers rights and environmental protections, maybe he spoke about other things but with less passion.

    Plus, given that this was prior to the vote and Smith is clearly pro-EU it's unlikely he was going to say something along the lines of I'd like to stay in the EU but Jeremy doesn't seem too keen, don't let that influence your votes though.

    I'm fairly indifferent between the two but if this is being used as a stick to beat Smith then it's pretty desperate.

    On a separate note, on a football forum I'm on I saw this description of the PLP which amused me out-of-touch Westminster-bubble quibbledicks

  • if the PLP and the NEC spent as much time opposing this government as they did sifting through member's tweets and facebook posts, maybe we'd have an effective opposition

    Seems unlikely as Corbyn wasn't providing an effective opposition before the challenge. In fact, I think that's why it came about, funnily enough.

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