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  • France has really overreacted here. The terrorism excuse is also bullshit.

    By trying to protect women from sexist cultural thing that is excused by religion*/as a reaction to something that relatively new **now women are again in more trouble and of course racists feel empowered. And as the article say there have been fights in places.

    • Men aren't under the same scrutiny
      **France always had Muslims but thanks to shitty regressive forms now burqinis/face veils have been introduced [look at traditional muslim dress VS what SA has introduced]

    So now what? This isn't secularism, as banning dress isn't, but it's part of wider problems (racism on one end, and lack of acknowledging women's rights on another end)

  • The terrorism excuse is also bullshit.

    Kind of, it's being seen to do something for an audience of racists.

    Its kind of makes our Brexit related racism seem pretty tame in comparison.

  • I don't think it's simple racism if you had to endure several terrorist attacks. Not all Brexit racism/xenophobia is pure dumb racism too, there are lots of issues under the surface.

    I'm rather pissed off how Exit blamed everything on immigration and then when the pure racist/xenophobic fuckwits feel they're right just slinks away like they had nothing to do with anything. No excuses, no nothing.

    The attacks in France were BLAMED on Islam, though by the time things have been investigated it wasn't Islam, and even if it was, this isn't a reaction that makes anyone safer. But saying "oh, we never had these attacks but it's OK nothing to do with anything" isn't going to work.

    The other side is of course that currently Islam is promoted as THE cause of terrorism, which doesn't hold true in all cases. That's media bias/dumb politicians (Hollande shouting about more bombing the next day)/lazy stereotyping.

    As with Brexit, it's complicated but it also empowers the racists/xenophobes as there's no counterbalance and no nuance.
    Bear in mind that IRA terrorist (Irish out...) and "socialist" terrorism (Rote Armee Fraction) lead to overreactions also.

    TL:DR Don't empower assholes, don't put in moronic laws, but don't avoid the issues either.

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