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Thanks JW, yes I agree about abdo muscles....I have zero there, undoubtedly things would be better there with some muscle buildup, but I still have the classic "spare tyre" around my belly/sides/back....it's just blubber...several ugly kg of it that still need's to go. I've always known I need to do some additional exercise for my abdo and upper body, I have tried with some dumb bells before but hurt my shoulder a couple of times so I've not continued with that. But I will get back into that in due course, maybe some kettle bell workout instead would be better?
My goal isn't just to lose my belly, as I stated when I joined this "fat club", they were to lose weight, get ftp of 3w/kg and to do 10 & 25 mile times to the VTTA std for my age of 57, they are :- 27:20 & 1:09:34. Currently I'm at 2.55w/kg, 28:58, no time set for 25m...yet.
Which is a significant improvement from when I started. So I'm not just dieting "till there's nothing left", I try to do 3 or 4 short fairly intense turbo/bike rides a week. Which is why it's taken 6 months to lose the same amount as I managed to lose 2 yrs ago in 4 months with no exercise. So this time around I have the added motivation of seeing my bike performance improve.....which as a self admitted strava addict, is a big deal for me.
As is wearing clothes without feeling and looking like just another fat bastard.
So hopefully that's enough to keep me motivated to stay away from all those "comfort" foods I had become hooked on.
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Kettlebells are good for gaining muscle and losing fat they may be right up your street :)
Bodypump works for that too, and yes some men do go to those classes (if you have a gym and they have bodypump)But it may be worth getting your shoulder looked at, it shouldn't hurt...
It's usually better to go for your own performance goal anyway, or a health goal. Not the sixpack. Getting one may mean you're pissweak for example and then what... it won't suddenly rain modelling contracts either :p
I guess you're already on: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/171238/?offset=1725#comment13170581 ?
As I'm not an expert on cycle performance (weight lifting foremost..)
I find now that I eat "clean" most of the time most junk foods just aren't as nice as I recall. But of course every so often some are eaten. Pizza and M&S chocolate minis (hmmmmm)
I wouldn't focus too much on weight if the goal is to lose your belly.
If you have a belly but no muscle (you say you have skinny arms and legs) sometimes building a bit of muscle is needed to cut the fat again as otherwise there's "nothing left" if that makes sense.
I've about the same belly at 67.5 as at 66 and gained muscle, but if I cut now to 66 I keep the strength and lose some belly.
But sterling work lot of loss :)