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  • N.b. good things I've heard are that a lot of tech has trickled down from DA/105/Ultegra to 2016 4700 Tiagra. But although Shimano have updated everything else, it's still 10 speed.

    Is this bad? Would the group be more future proof if it went to 11?

  • The initial price difference of tiagra and 105 is very tight, IMHO unless the wheels can't handle 11 speed don't see why would choose tiagra.

    This may differ on other countries though.

  • The difference of the price between 105 and Tiagra become moot when the components are cheaper to replace on the Tiagra.

  • The initial price difference of tiagra and 105 is very tight, IMHO unless the wheels can't handle 11 speed don't see why would choose tiagra.

    Nah you were right - price difference between Tiagra 4700 and 105 5800 was under five quid.

    Quite a few of the 105 parts were cheaper than Tiagra, including the brifters by £22. I think only the chainset, cassette and rear mech were more expensive.

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