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  • N.b. good things I've heard are that a lot of tech has trickled down from DA/105/Ultegra to 2016 4700 Tiagra. But although Shimano have updated everything else, it's still 10 speed.

    Is this bad? Would the group be more future proof if it went to 11?

  • 4700 is great

  • Is this bad? Would the group be more future proof if it went to 11?

    10 speed isn't going to disappear, nor 9, 8 or even 7 speed.

    If you want a strong and reliable groupset that felt like the high end one, then Tiagra work amazingly well, especially since 10 speed components are cheap to replace.

  • The initial price difference of tiagra and 105 is very tight, IMHO unless the wheels can't handle 11 speed don't see why would choose tiagra.

    This may differ on other countries though.

  • Just put 4700 on my partner's bike.

    It's better than my 105 5700 for sure, though I imagine the difference with 105 5800 is minimal.

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