Proper leather shoes

@lmananimal you have some weird shoes...

....kind of jealous

Hey man. PM me and we can discuss.

Anyone know where to get a pair like this, in black, but not £1k?!

Picture is of a pair by George Cleverley

I like the slightly squared toe

They are pretty.

I got a pair of dress shoes very similar in black from Boundary Mill in Colne. They do have a few 'branches' around the country.

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http://www.cheaney.co.uk/collections-c2/contemporary-collection-c5/cheaney-warwick-capped-oxford-in-black-calf-leather-p54

Not much broguing though..

https://www.meermin.es/grupoMTO.php?idGrupo=482#

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https://www.carminashoemaker.com/mens-derby-shoes/blucher-cordovan-cap-toe-black-748

Cordovan too. Great value at €570.

Are these the same in black?

https://www.meermin.es/articulo.php?idArt=4862

Good backup "safe" option, cheers.

I do like these, but as stupid as it may sound to others, no broguing at all, plain black, to me feels too "school uniform", whereas to others it's the most formal.

While great value, a little out of budget!!

A bit of a trek, wedding is in less than 3 weeks and I have no free weekends!!

https://www.carminashoemaker.com/mens-oxford-shoes/toe-cap-punched-80201 ?

You'll have them in a matter of days.

You know the history of brogue right? It's possibly the least formal of all shoe detailing...

I do not.

However, I am a luddite who hasn't worn proper shoes on the regular since I was in school!

So I did some reading. Thanks for pointing that out.

It's me being pedantic, if you go into most offices you'll find brogue shoes as the most popular.

That fashion doesn't really mean it's 'right', but you can break all the rules at your leisure.

If it's for a wedding I think there were some other points before about making sure the shoes are comfortable and something you'll wear again in the future.

Depending on the cut of the suit, certainly narrow/long toes look great, but are they comfortable and are they versatile? High polish cap toe oxfords are 'the' formal event shoe if you look at pictures of English people, where something way more Italian, Spanish, French may have more elegance and comfort when matched with the suit.

Whatever you do, if you spend serious money on the shoes, don't let your trousers fall into a full break across the vamp. PLEASE.

Pedantry is acceptable, I am the same about things I care about.

Whatever you do, if you spend serious money on the shoes, don't let your trousers fall into a full break across the vamp. PLEASE.

What does this mean?

Back in college our fashion/textiles tutor (who was a master seamstress in wedding clothes for some time) said "clothes should fit like you're naked, like you can't feel them" meaning, they should fit you, not be too tight or too baggy. I remember wearing baggy trousers to work and a guy said to me he boils his trousers til they're a tight fit.

Depending on your trousers, they will be somewhere between ankle swingers and dragging under your shoe heel. That classic look is a narrow trouser that rests when standing just above the shoe, which in many ways i showing off your quality choice in socks and shoe.

But there's also the 'break' where the trouser falls over the laced tongue part of the shoe, because of the trouser's length and cut. If the trouser totally folds back on itself it's a full break, and it could be baggy enough that the trouser goes all the way to the vamp. If it rests on the shoe and folds but not terribly, it's a half break. Somehow both of these are acceptable.

They're not acceptable.

Also. this all depends if you're willing to wear your trousers on your waist, not your high hip. We normally wear jeans and casual clothes below our belly, resting between our high hip, and a straight-outta-compton full hip or lower.

Sorry to use a picture of a lady, but theory's the same:

To keep the crease of the trousers perfect and your socks showing, you should get trousers that fit comfortably around your waist, without giving you man-cameltoe. If you wear perfect fitting trousers too low, you'll look like like a city worker whose belly no longer accommodates it.

OK so I'm definitely on board with the way to wear trousers! I normally wear ankle swingers when I'm wearing trainers but I know where to wear my trousers and they've been shortened and tapered to the right length so there's no break.

Also, I love this forum. I learn so much from so many different people.

Nice. I want to say stick traditional with closed tongue lace-ups (Oxford, not Derby) because they look more elegant in my opinion... but I recently changed my mind about monk straps (for the better) - don't discount them.

I guess you need to be careful that it's something you can and would be happy to pull off, and that they will polish up shiny. A full grain monk strap might have a toe just square enough, and the shoe could anchor your suit choice. It would be insanely comfortable all day, too.

They're kinda square but not square.

http://www.macsamillion.co.uk/cheaney-tiverton-monk-shoe-f-fit-in-black-calf-49/p3086

If you want detailing, there's always Bally:

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446884602