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  • But the ones that aren't really ignorant racists are surely more likely to see the error of their ways when their perspectives are dismissed for being the trash they are

    Disagree quite strongly here. Abusing them drives them further into the arms of the racists and leads to a bunker mentality - I think that's what we saw with the referendum and what we're seeing with Trumpism in the US.

    rather than legitimizing their concerns and trying to bribe them back in.

    But on this I agree. I think the left needs to come up with an economic plan that reconciles those who have benefited from globalisation with those who haven't, and that plan needs to rise above this petty obsession with migrant numbers and move the debate away from dogwhistle racism. Properly funding our public services to deal with an aging population is probably an important part of that.

    A big part of my problem with the Labour Party right now is that they're doing pitifully little to shift the debate (and, frankly, I don't have much faith in Owen Smith either, but at least he might break the current logjam)

  • It seems everybody agrees (or at least in lip service I don't trust the Tories) wealth needs to be distributed better, but somehow it all ends up being blamed on other things rather than the local gov. [immigrants/EU...]

    But it will be higher taxes/less disposable income/working for longer, no matter what. Who wants to stand up and say that knowing they will lose votes? :)

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