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• #5252
Is it illegal or what then? How can he fail a test but they don't know if the substance is banned? WTF?
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• #5254
"Some ghastly mistakes were made"
Spiffing rhetoric old bean! Chocks away, then a ginger ale and some jolly old japes!
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• #5255
More biased anti-Russian prejudice:
McLaren report key findings
The Moscow Laboratory operated, for the protection of doped Russian athletes, within a State-dictated failsafe system
The Sochi Laboratory operated a unique sample swapping methodology to enable doped Russian athletes to compete at the Games
The Ministry of Sport directed, controlled and oversaw the manipulation of athlete’s analytical results or sample swapping, with the active participation and assistance of the FSB (the Russian federal security service), CSP (Centre of Sports Preparation in Russia), and both Moscow and Sochi Laboratories
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• #5256
·Moved comment to olympic thread·
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• #5257
68 Russian athlete ban upheld by CAS
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• #5258
This is worth reading, a young Anglo-NZ rider called Toby Atkins, who was pressurised into doping by a team he joined last season;
http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/17/78/92/Interview_Toby_ENG_English.pdf
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• #5260
^ good thing they keep on re-testing. and I'm glad they found cheaters from more than just 1 country
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• #5261
If doping is so prevalent at lower levels, it does make you worry about what the true state of the world tour is.
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• #5262
There's no bio passport at the lower levels. Which whilst it won't stop a committed doper from continuing, it does make it much more difficult to dope effectively.
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• #5263
So Thomas Bach, president of the IOC and close personal friend of Putin, manages to find a way to allow Russian athletes to compete in Rio.
Fuck. Off.
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• #5264
Just realised they not only green flagged everyone involved in the doping scam, they also put in a new rule to ban any athletes with previous bans. Which looks good, until you realise it's designed specifically to punish Stepanova for whistleblowing, and is contrary to their own rules on dopers who have served bans.
Fuck. Off. More.
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• #5265
An outstanding insight into whistleblowing by @stevemagness Well said! And shame on the IOC. Read this!
https://medium.com/@stevemagness/no-one-really-wants-a-whistle-blower-russia-the-ioc-and-doping-6c0c2461bba7#.pjyuci1ql -
• #5266
Not trolling, (not deliberately, anyway) but do does the forum think that the public in general believe athletics is mostly clean, with just the russians and the odd other-ian being caught here and there? The article saying that dozens of medals have been prevented from going to cheats seems to me to be making some big assumptions.
My own perception is that they are all pretty much dirty, but I may have my pessimistic glasses on today.
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• #5267
I don't doubt that there's a lot of doping going on, but when you've demonstrated state-sponsored doping programs and condone it by admitting that country to the olympics.... you've failed sport in a HUGE way.
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• #5268
does the forum think that the public in general believe athletics is mostly clean
I'm sure the great unwashed couldn't give a toss. They seem to be obsessed with domestic kickball, which makes no serious effort to limit doping. If the plebs were interested in whether sport was clean or not, we'd see a demand to control doping in soccer.
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• #5270
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• #5271
Lol at Moscow.
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• #5272
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• #5273
What about competitive doping?
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• #5274
Ten years of pretty intense clubbing and I still struggled to be last man standing after a 2 day bender. At least it taught me how to suffer. Handy for riding bikes.
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• #5275
Michelle Smith de Bruin holds 4 medals from Atlanta. According to that chart it was a clean Olympics for medallists.
DVT - I spent a month and a half stabbing myself with needles.
Not sure about IV though, I'm not scared of needles or blood or anything but DIY IV freaks me out.