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I find this sort of thing really interesting, as I believe Plato thought that the content of a dialogue could influence its form, which is something that he shows in many dialogues. The situation with the dialogue in the Labour Party seems to be really intractable because of some systematic problem at the heart of it that a lot of people can't overcome and that they keep snapping back into, and that may well influence the form it takes. Who knows, perhaps something like that even influences this thread.
I don't know what that problem is, but I suspect the 'official' unelectable/leadership style/bullying blah vs. Blairite rightwingers blah ((don't) pick your side) is only reflections on the surface of it. There's probably something in it about people either supporting 'real world' 'socialism' (Lenin/Stalin/Trotsky/Mao etc., (don't) take your pick :) ) or socialism as a theoretical/utopian construct. I don't think it's as simple as 'some people are more rightwing, some people are more leftwing', but I don't have enough knowledge of the Labour Party to try to understand it further.