• so it's not true that the remain campaign was funded by MS/GS (and thus most likely the Mischon del Reya legal challenge)? Because that was the point. it seems that on this forum different Stance = troll

  • Nice false dichotomy... oh, hold on .... poor false dichotomy and very shoddy debate tactics. Suggestive that you've realised that you don't have anything to back up your arguments when challenged about them.

    Did you forget to consider that the point about trolling may have been related to your second statement rather than the first or were you stupid enough to think we wouldn't notice.

    1/10 probably could do better.

  • ok I didn't realise I was addressing the oxford union, rather I am making short statements on a casual forum in which people use the word 'stupid' or 'idiot' for those who disagree with them without providing an eloquent followup of evidence using the Harvard system (please visit previous pages on this thread).

    breifly speaking, all the remainers admit that there are (drastic) democratic flaws with the eu, brexit essentially sheds a layer of bureaucracy (of course we will have to adhere to some eu regulations but by no means all) and (thankfully) we have a non-left wing government whose ideology is entirely based upon small government - the demolition of bureaucracy is in itself the decentralisation of power, as it prevents overly-zealous technocrats from intervening in society. One piece of evidence for you to suck on is May's wonderful decision to axe the Department for energy and climate change, dispersing power away from government and from the corporate giants like shell and bp or even people like David Cameron's uncle who use all this cuddly green regulation to their advantage.

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