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What rims are you using and what is the real width of the tyre? Considering them but most says the 25c is actually narrower.
Maybe have to get 28c?
daveaa-
The 28c's came up a lot bigger when I had them. Swapped them for the 25c's which are pretty much on the nose on my 18mm internal rims. They're a good tyre but nowhere as supple as a true cotton gumwall a la Veloflex or Vittoria Corsas.
But if you just want that gumwall look for general riding & commuting duties you can't really go wrong.
jimmy2shoes
I could have sworn I the 25c gumwalls I ordered were 120TPI, but internetz backs up what you say. This does however go to show that TPI ain't everything, because I think they ride pretty well, even at 60TPI. Very happy with them, although others have had puncture issues, I've not.