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• #1127
Got my Moment DW out into the wild. Initial impressions:
- Pretty fast to set up
- Very easy to tension up guylines and get the right shape
- Very well ventilated, I closed up the end vents once the temperature dropped below 0C. Would probably prefer the semi-solid interior option for nights below freezing, as sub-zero wind draft is not so pleasant
- Quite spacious, both vestibules are handy for storing items that you would like protected from weather
This pic was before I tensioned the pole/vestibule straps, the crinkles visible disappeared after I did that.
- Pretty fast to set up
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• #1128
Ive been fast packing and climbing for years and that is one of the best suggestions Ive seen ever for both workability and money saving.
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• #1129
When i did the raid Pyrenean and then the Alps via Ventoux unsupported in 2014 I used revelate luggage. For front lights I used a fork mounted LED flasher so cars could see me and a helmet mounted light so I could see. I mounted my garmin so that it was behind the bars and offset enough to allow turning without hitting my top tube bag. this also meant it was easy to run a power lead from my compact power supply to the garmin at the end of long stages when the battery was dropping off.
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• #1131
I run my Garmins on aerobars and use long right-angle cables from a battery pack in a top top bag to charge them. Need to get bike and work out dynamos...
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• #1132
What is winning the lightweight tent recommendations?
I'm currently looking at Hilleberg Anjan 2 GT or Nallo 2 GT.
http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/yellow-label-tents/anjan-2-gt/
http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/red-label-tents/nallo-2-gt/
Though I've also considered the Nammatj 2 GT even though it's pushing 3.7kg when packed:
http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/black-label-tents/nammatj-2-gt/
Mostly wondering about packed size and weight, how people are choosing to carry them on bike.
I don't mind spending the monies on a tent, my last tent went 20 years and travelled the world and was good in a Swedish winter, and the base of the Grand Canyon in the height of Summer, as well as places like Margaret River in Western Australia and the Thai jungle.
I want lightweight and well ventilated, but yet the possibility to deal with cold and wet weather, and all of this with a small packing size and enough space to not require wet bags be in the main compartment.
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• #1133
Single person?
I have a TarpTent Moment DW. I was pushed to -6C (in Jarrahdale WA no less, north of Margs!) with a mesh interior and a S2S Spark Sp1 sleeping bag + s2s ultralight insulated mat, had to crack out the emergency blanket. I feel if I was going to consistently do cooler weather like that I would go for the TarpTent with solid interior and a heavier sleeping bag. It has vestibules...but not as large as the ones you have got on the Hille GT series.
I had all my bikepack kit (bar roll, saddle bag, shoes) in the vestibules though. Plenty of space for a hiking pack in the main larger vestibule to give you an idea of how large it is. With some creative moving gear around and organisation you could probably carefully cook in the larger vestibule - the prospect of burning alcohol spillage freaks me out in any tent though.
I carry mine in my handlebar roll. The carbon poles that you can spec with the tent fold down to 46cm - these are carried in the bag with the tent to protect them, as I can't fit them lengthwise in my small frame bag. Packed dimensions about 46cm by 10cm diameter, but no doubt the thickness compresses down when I put it in the bar roll.
The tent fly itself has loops for extra peg points around the edges in windy conditions, as well as points to attach additional guys. It's also extraordinarily well ventilating.
TT Moment is ~1kg. The sil-nylon seems quite fragile, but is actually incredibly tough. If you want something super tough or need extra vestibule go with a hille GT series. Check out the TT Double and Single Rainbow and Double Moment.
I use a Tyvek groundsheet and take a few extra alloy pegs in case of windy conditions so I add about 150g or so.
Edit: just re-read your post and realised I have so much more to write. Brb, I'm getting a kebab from the Turks round the corner and will be back to type more + pics.
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• #1134
I want this to last a couple of decades... so 2 person is probably better than 1. Plus... I'm 6'2"... a lot of 1 person tents are quite difficult to move around in.
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• #1135
Just added more info - also on 2 person tents (moment DW 2 and Rainbow 2). I guess you were looking at the GT series for the length?
Edit: a hille will definitely last longer than a TT IMO - heavier weight material.
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• #1136
Yeah.
Somewhere to leave a bag if needed, or a covered cooking space if it's pissing down.
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• #1137
Hilleberg will definitely be the way forward for that one then, if you want it to last. They're used all over the place, and most do what you want...It's on my list of things to get once I've saved up!
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• #1138
We have settled upon 2 tents!
For my wife and I, for travelling, festivals, overseas, everything that isn't silly cold (which I doubt either of us would do nowadays) we're going for the Hilleberg Nammatj 3 GT which is just under 4kg... a bit much for cycling, tolerable for backpacking, perfect for everything else.
That will be purchased sooner rather than later (thank you credit card), and I'll use it next month in the Brecon Beacons and Dartmoor, mostly just to test it out and then we'll use it together for a few weekends before the Winter kicks in.
We chose the 3 person for the extra width and comfort it affords for only 270gm more than the 2 person. We chose the Nammatj over the Nallo due to the mesh door and being able to move the internal compartment fully back and tons of storage, and over the Anjan because some of the usage will be festivals and the high skirt would leave possessions on show.
We went for a 2 tent solution as weight isn't critical in the larger tent for my wife and I... weight would only be critical in the solo tent. There isn't a low weight solo solution that could cover both of us plus equipment comfortably, the "livability" of the solo and smaller 2 person tents wasn't that great and whilst I love camping my wife isn't so hot on it that inflicting a small space on her would be a good idea.
Then for me when I'm cycle touring and solo, I want a Hilleberg Akto or Enan. I'm going to look at them in person when I'm passing through Taunton next month. Prefer the Enan, but will compare them before I buy. I probably won't buy this until Christmas for use next Spring.
These will replace my old North Face arctic base camp tent which I had for over 20 years. I figure the investment in Hilleberg is high, but that if they last a similar amount of time it will be worth it.
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• #1139
4kg is well fat
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• #1140
Yeah, the Enan will solve that.
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• #1141
I got a 3 man Coleman cobra for bike touring with Mrs TM.
~3kg, defintely weather proof (had a couple of storms this week), packable and only about £65. Seems well constructed too.
Loads of space, not sure why you would spend more. 20 years is a long time, but guess it depends how often you use it. For £679 you could get a new one every couple of years. Personally I wouldn't take a £680 tent anywhere near a festival.
I've got a 2 man naturehike for solo camping in August, thinks it's sub 1.5kg.
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• #1142
Love my nature hike.
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• #1143
I doubt Fi will come bike touring... and it was clear our combined requirements were never going to lead to a tent good for solo bike touring. Hence... the Hilleberg Enan or something for that.
For the "family" tent... well, my last went everywhere. +42'c temperatures in Western Australia, and -9'c in Sweden. Super dry conditions in the Grand Canyon... tropical rainforest during rainy season.
If it were just the UK, and likely to be just the UK... I wouldn't spend this much money. But I love camping, and I go far and wide. The bike camping is a new thing, and my old tent had finally given up the ghost... so I was hoping a single tent would do both things at once... but ho hum.
Anyhow... this is what the Grand Canyon looks like in places:
It takes a trek through the base to reach that, but oh wow is it worth it. The softest water I've ever been swimming in. I'm going to go back there one day, and take a more comfortable tent and stay for longer.
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• #1144
Yeah but the Coleman, not researched temperatures but I reckon you get more useable space for a kilo and £700 less.
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• #1145
Possibly... but it's a done deal now and I know I'm going to be glad when I put it up on torrential rain, or when the mesh door keeps bugs out, etc.
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• #1146
Besides. Isn't this a bit like an argument that goes, "why'd you spend so much on your bike? I got this sweet ride from halfords and it serves me fine".
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• #1147
get a custom made tent?
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• #1149
I went for green.
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• #1150
It unfortunately wasn't available in leopard print.
Im looking for a ~£50 maybe up to £70 max if its worth it, sleeping pad, will be in use with an actual tent, for touring and camping and packable is more of an issue than weight to me.
If anyone has something that fits the bill of this and also isnt using it the weekend of the 7th of july and I could borrow to test out before buying.. also ideal...