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  • @swampie significantly grimmer than (for example) Plaistow, Edmonton, Enfield in your opinion? (i.e. the other places in Greater London which remain vaguely affordable!)

  • I grew up in Dagenham, moved there when I was 5, moved away when I was 20, but my family still live there.It is a shithole. Particularly when I was growing up, it was violent and racist. That element seems to be dying away now, though it's still a bland urban shithole.

    What I've found with Dagenham is that your immediate neighbours make the biggest difference. My folks currently live next to an Indian family and have a currently good experience. But their previous next door neighbours were between 5 and 25 eastern Europeans who were well known for credit card fraud and stealing - my parents were too scared to go on holiday and I think they were right to be scared. Prior to that their next door neighbours were a young couple who beat their kids and where the husband beat his wife. Prior to that, when I lived there, it was a woman who, a few years after breaking up with her husband and moving out, killed her small child.

    Dagenham isn't a bad place per se but it's where the dregs go; people who have no other options. That can lead to camaraderie - it did with my friends. But it can also lead to some truly horrible experiences.

    Honestly if I were you I'd be looking at Chingford. Not much more expensive and much nicer and more central.

  • Everything wot @BleakReference said about Dagenham.

    I've got some totally stonking friends who grew up in Dagenham but they'll all be the first to admit the rest of the cunts that live there are pretty much cunts.

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