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I've removed it and loosened, grabbed brake, tightened caliper back on, let off brake and still the fucking pads rub.
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Here's a trick.
Grab your phone, open a webpages (or a white background), put it underneath the calipers, so you can see how close the pads is to the rotor.
This is the easiest way of seeing and aligning disc brakes than the old white paper and torch trick.
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The dirty secret of disc brakes is that this pretty much happens all the time.
Just that on MTBs nobody cared because they were having too much fun doing rad shit to care about the occasional ping and scrubbing noise.
You can set the caliper up perfectly, but as Ed says, you need to do it by eye, and it's massive faff.
edscoble
Howard
They're shit, throw them away.